Your thoughts on CRU

General Discussions: ASK John: Your thoughts on CRU

By swanee on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 07:02 pm: Edit Post

Hi John, I was curious if you have been following the CRU situation that broke last week? If you have, do you think this is finally the nail in the coffin for the Anthropogenic Global Warming hysteria? Or will it get thrown under the rug?

I also wanted to know if you follow (or heard of) Anthony Watts and his surface stations project?

By snobuilder on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 08:47 am: Edit Post

This is recieving a total blackout by the the nightly 6 PM editorial.

By admin on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 08:56 am: Edit Post

Sorry, but I have not heard of the CRU or what broke last week.

Also have not heard of Anthony Watts.


By snobuilder on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 09:39 am: Edit Post

Hackers bust into the CRU, Climate Research Unit @ a UK university which is ground zero of all climate data, and discovered emails discussing how to manipulate data to produce desired results. Desired results = proof of MMGW.
This is such a weighty issue that I beleive the "press" in our country are trying to ignore/kill the story.
The fact that someone as yourslf was not aware of the issue speaks volumes.
Do a search.

By rusty1577 on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 06:13 pm: Edit Post global-warming-hysteria/

By snobuilder on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 07:57 pm: Edit Post

By admin on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 08:03 pm: Edit Post

Well, if it's true then obviously any conclusions drawn using this data would be thrown out the window

Keep in mind that there there are other data sets used.

Sad thing if it's true though. Hope the "scientists" involved can't get a job flipping burgers if it's true.


By snobuilder on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 08:06 pm: Edit Post

By swanee on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 08:35 pm: Edit Post

One of the main scientists is Michael Mann, the guy that Gore used for the 'hockey stick' in his movie.

As for Anthony Watts, hes a meteorologist that started a project observing the surface stations that are used for temperature data in the US. He found many of these stations are poorly maintained and are in areas where the temperature will always be warm: like in a parking lot or 5 feet from a air conditioning unit, on top of a building, next to a tennis court, in the middle of two asphalt runways at an airport. His two websites are and . Check them out, fascinating stuff. snobuilder, I love climatedepot!!

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