Seems like we are seeing more 4 stroke sled pictures being posted for 2009 non currents or 2010 new sleds. What brand, model, & engine did you buy if non current or new sled purchase?

Why?

It will be interesting to see what sleds JDers bought since we have trail riders & powder hounds on this site & all types of sled opinions.

Please keep comments in good taste & no bashing so mods have easy time with this & fun for all to see market trends.
Thanks,
Whitedust

I traded in my 07 SDI Blizzard Skidoo, for a 2010 renagade x etec. I stuck with skidoo because of the handling. And I went with the longer track because I found a lot of secret stashes between bergland and twin lakes last winter. This new 2010 has some big shoes to fill, I loved my blizzard

2007 Cat Jaguar Z1 leftover
Why?
Big guy, over 55, stay on trails, want a big cruiser
Unbeatable price
4 Stroke

I have been checking this one out but cant find a price !! http://www.bornrich.org/entry/i-skoob-snowmobile-to-pop-up-your-thrills-on-polar -roads/

I bought a leftover:
2009 Nytro XT-X

1. I LOVE the 4 strokes.
2. They have a MUCH better (linear) throttle feel from idle to WOT.
3. No more injector oil
4. Longevity
5. Reliability
6. Don't have to worry about burning it up on long WOT pulls.
7. They accept forced induction better.
8. Sound. (NOTHING beats the turbo's or blown Yamaha 4 cylinders)

etc etc etc

I was torn between the 1200 Gade and the Nytro XT-X. It came down to the fact that there weren't any leftover Doo's near me and I am not as thrilled with the 1200 engine as much as the Yamaha 1050 or 1000's.

The Doo is VERY comfortable though.

Can't wait for snow!

2009 800 RMK Shift 144. Can't wait to hit the woods, mountains, and have some fun!

Supposed to snow this weekend in Minnesota! Just fluries, but I like the early start!!!!

I will stick with my 09 X-Fire 800 sp and my wife upgraded to my old 06 X-fire 700 sp from her 04 F-6. I will be adding powder pro skis and either the new Boss seat or the new Cat seat. Any recommendations?

mvedepo, might I suggest a bit of a boost for your XTX?! I hear those make that 4 stroker extra fun!

08 tnt

Tech,
Its in the works. ;-)
If I can get the sled dialed in then I'm going to boost it (200 - 210hp), install a meth kit, and an excel exhaust.
I've been talking to a couple turbo companies and sounds like with that setup I'll have a managable amount of power for the trail but I can also pin it and do just under 140 as long as I want across the lake.
I think that sounds fun!

Yep, fun indeed! "managable amount of power", now that's rich!

Yeah. I guess when you're running through the woods it is a benefit that the skis spend SOME time on the ground. ;-)

I upgraded to an 09' Nytro XTX as well. Bought it in April and am anxiously awaiting the Milwaukee snow show so I can get it accessorized. I won't be attempting to get 200 hp out of it any time soon but would sure like to see mvedepo fly across the lake.

Dean,

I see you are in Marshall. I'm in Sun Prairie. We'll have to hit the trails sometime!

What are you getting at the snow show?

Me too, I have to see this rig when she's done.

Cool Mike. We should definately get out for a ride. Let's hope for another year like last year. I will be buying a taller windshield, the side deflectors and some saddle bags of some type. My brother and I have done a few bag trips over the years and I enjoy having room to pack. I'm also due for a new helmet, boots, gloves etc etc.... Guess I'll have to remember the checkbook.

I have heard a couple of complaints about the top end of the Nytro XTX. Can anybody tell what they had their NYTRO XTX up to? (TOP SPEED)

Nytros are geared for acceleration off the line. They are not lake racers. That being said the XT-X has a higher top end than the short track Nytro. The shorty has a top end around 100 MPH and the XT-X is around 105 MPH.
In fact of all the sleds that American Snowmobiler tested last year the XT-X was only beaten by 1 sled in the quarter mile. And that was the turbo Cat.
With a turbo or blower they will do whatever you want. ;-)

Mike, you are right on with the 105 mph top end. That is what I hit once the sled had over 1000 miles on it.

I don't know about the turbo though. Not that it don't work but if you do it first, I'll be there to see it. Then, who knows. But yes, lets ride. I am the brother of that electraglide "goldwing wannabe" from above.

So now we have XTXs in Watertown, Marshall, Sun Praire and Columbus. Any more good guys out there?

I doubt I'll get it blown this year. I don't want to miss good riding wrenching. It would be a summer job.

This year I will be changing the skis on it and possibly putting an Excel exhaust on it. I'm not sure which skis yet though. I like the curves but I had great luck with Simmons Gen 1. I'm torn.

Dean, I did just get a new helmet s well. I don't know if you are looking for a MX style or not. I bought the 509 Evolution and the 509 goggles. I should get them next week.

Can't wait for snow!!

Double post.

Mike, what info can you give on ski's. I've heard there can be some darting issues with the stock ski's and if that turns out to be true for my sled I'd like to correct that rather then deal with it. Most of my riding will be done on groomed trails so the answer may be in changing out the carbides? Any advice is appreciated. Good plug for the wingdingers Doug.

Dean

Dean,

You are correct. The stock Yamaha ski's are among the worst in the industry. Here is a quick summary of what I know:

Simmons flex ski Gen 1 - A little harder to steer at slower speeds but when going through the woods at higher speeds 35 -40 they steer with little to no effort. No Darting at all with these. They do suffer a little in slushy conditions.

C&A Razors - Steer heavy but rail nicely.

C&A XT - Steer heavy but rail decent and decent off trail.

Curve XS - A really nice aggressive ski without the steering effort. They track great but aren't as "grabby" as the C&•••, no darting, decent off trail.

USI X2 - Easier steering, good tracking, some darting, decent flotation

Pilot 6.9 - Same as the USI X2 except a little less darting.

So anyway. That's where I am at on ski's. I do mostly trail and lake riding. If I did more off trail stuff I would be looking at the Yamaha mountain skis and the Powder Hounds as well.

You probably know if you saw my post (new sled new direction) that I picked-up a 2010 XTX. The reasons are as fallows,long track; better on rough trails,better off trail,four stroke engine will last longer(MORE MILES) than 2 stroke, sounds cool too, no more injection oil, Yamaha builds a quality piece, Factory rep. sugested taller winshild & deflectors,(got those) and maybe mountain skis if going off trail alot, will be looking at those eventually. sorry about the run-on sentance.

Duel runner carbide will get rid of the darting if you don't want to spend $$ on new ski's. They worked fine for me last year but I'am looking for a better ski for off trail.

One dually on the right ski and a single carbide on the left and there will be zero darting issues! I put the dually on the right side to protect it a little more when riding the side of the road. I ride trail and lakes only and have never had a reason to buy different ski's.

cobalt, as mentioned above, I've got an 09 Nytro XTX and I want to take your advice on the dual carbide just on the right side. My question to you, or anyone here who has a similar sled, The Nytro come stock with a 3" carbide only. What do you suggest for the dual? 4"? I don't want to over do it and then have issues with it. Thanks for the help!

On the XTX, you'll definitely want to get rid of the stock carbides right away - they're a little short and don't last long. My darting is about completely gone just by adding Bergstrom 8" Triple Point carbides...those along with shimming the back of the ski rubber with a 1/4 or 3/8 piece of plastic (included with the carbides) cured everything.

Selling 06 Polaris Fusion 600 and bought 09 Yamaha Vector.

vogelm1

100% right on. spend a hundred on the skegs and the skis are fixed with some quick shimming on any yamaha sled. don't spend hundreds on new skis, not worth in my opinion