Revelstoke, BC

[polarisrider1]

Who would be interested in a Revelstoke Mountain riding trip of a life time. This is the smack Daddy of all Mountain riding. It would be next year around this time. Sleds will get trucked out and you can ride in the supersleeper cab that holds 15 sleeps 8 at a time. or fly out and rent a 4x4 to get to the lodge.

[fgsacts]

Yes I am interested. Keith has already been talking about it.

[snoluver1]

This might be a viable option. What kind of money we talking to B.C.? Also, is there more than one driver--straight through or stoping at night?

[RMKrick]

How long are you going for? Idea how much? Do i need a passport?

[polarisrider1]

Andy that was quick. Money???? not sure yet depends on interest. Rick Mom and I have talked about this. I would like to put it together. I can tell you this you will not find a less expensive way to get there than Moms. Great people! They are currently doing a 2 week trip, 1 week to Snowies and 1 week to Cooke City. Only those that can cross a border to Canada apply. Passport, no prevoius or current DUI, late child support, etc. They do figure it out at the border and you will be left to the Canadians. If you can not cross, you will figure your own way home. We are serious on this. Sleds must be insured and registered in your name, you need a passport or similiar. We exchange money at Duty free and buy cigs. and booze there also. Any priors or convictions don't even think of it. Canada is very strict on this. Only serious apply. This will be the trip of your sledding life time for off trail riders.

[polarisrider1]

Right now I need 26 riders who will commit to get Moms interest in going. they have a lot of restrictions they have to meet to haul sleds across the border. It may not even be feasible any more. We looked into this 2 yrs. ago. Things are constantly changing at the border for trucks. Rick is on a trip out to Cooke right now I need numbers to bring him. He will give us the best price hands down. He loves to ride too!

[polarisrider1]

Trip will be straight thru. Don't worry when you are not sleeping you can watch either TV. Sled videos and or movies non stop. sleeping in upper bunks. Or you can let me be the house and we play blackjack for hours on end! They even allow smoking in the bathroom with the turbo fan. lol. Truck holds about 15 guys. rest have to fly.

[polarisrider1]

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[polarisrider1]

www.glacierhouse.com we will get group rate.

[polarisrider1]

It's time to sort the weak from the herd. We will be doing the all-inclusive pkg. 4-5 days of riding. 2 days out 2 days back. This is why we are giving you 1 yr. to think about it. I will have airport info for you. Smurfrider will help me with airport and shuttle info. I am more for next year March because of the longer days means more riding. Those who want to go will be given a list of things they will need to own or rent. example: Avy beacons, probes, etc.

[snoluver1]

You could even push it well into April if you want long days and warmer temps. Heck even May, although if theres no fresh it could be hero snow by then. Put me down as VERY intrested!!

[skeedoo]

Yep you can count me in on a trip to BC. A buddy and I were just talking about a British Columbia trip for next year a couple of days ago. Polarisrider1, (you won't remember) but I chatted with you on a JD forum ealier this year about Wawa/Elliott lake area, I have an island in the north channel somewhat close to Elliott Lake. Anyways keep me informed on a BC trip for next year if you have room. Thanks, Chris

[cuzzinolaf]

You crack me up Wayne. All I know is Techsledder, Snolover1, Andy and I better get a seat. I emailed you yesterday about this and you've done gone to town. What about all that stuff you said about the border, etc. Can this really happen?

Edit -
Oh yea, Stackler is going too.

[getsome]

I would be interested. Great opportunity ! Been hoping to do this trip before I turn 45. lol Canada no problem for me !

Not sure about takin my own sled, see how your #'s come along.

"I would have to get that RMK finally, honey."

[Firecatguy]

if you guys run into any kinda snag let me know as we were setting same thing up we have two tractor-trailers!!!

[techsledder]

Any thoughts or plans on having guides up there in Revy?

[cuzzinolaf]

if you guys run into any kinda snag let me know as we were setting same thing up we have two tractor-trailers!!!

I think we're good with whatever is safe, sure, and cheapest. I spoke with Wayne and he still needs to work out any and all details with Rick Mom. I sort of assumed you guys would be in on this trip too. It was originally Techsledder's idea and Wayne went to town LOL.


Any thoughts or plans on having guides up there in Revy?

I'm sure a package price could be put together to include guides. I would think it should be sorted by riding style or the type of riding people want to do.

[fgsacts]

Can anyone give me first hand knowledge on how difficult it is going to be crossing the border with a DUI? I openly admit that I got one 13 years ago. I am not even sure if it is still on my record (plea bargain). I would hate to go that distance and be left at the border or turned away at the airport. This is obviously a deciding factor for me.

[techsledder]

Fgsacts, best to contact the Canada Border Services Agency before any travel... Here are some hints on what they look for to deny entry into the country: http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/security-securite/admiss-eng.html#s3

Here's the main page for travel in Canada: http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/noncan-eng.html

[polarisrider1]

Hey guys, I currently cannot reach Moms Motorsports, but I left Rick a mesage to call me. They are currently out to the Snowies for a week and then to Cooke Cty for a week. He will call me when he gets a signal. Anyways we are not limited to doing the trip this way. Cuzz mentioned that others may have a semi truck. That will work to. I have found that I am not the only one who has this on their "Bucket list". We have many options to choose from on how to get there and back. We will have to set up the lodge in advance to get enough rooms for everyone. I will get pricing on that. Rick Mom is great at negotiating pkg. deals. We are at the early planning stages as of now. Those going to the Slednutz 2010 Mass Invasion or to the John Dee ride in can give me there input in person if they like. Or email me.

[cuzzinolaf]

Can anyone give me first hand knowledge on how difficult it is going to be crossing the border with a DUI? I openly admit that I got one 13 years ago. I am not even sure if it is still on my record (plea bargain). I would hate to go that distance and be left at the border or turned away at the airport. This is obviously a deciding factor for me.

I say we take a trip over to Sault St. Marie and cross the border to find out all the details. Maybe a trip to Wawa or just for the **** of it?

[techsledder]

How long are you going for? Idea how much? Do i need a passport?

More research on the passports and criminal records, etc.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g153339-s602/Canada:Crossing.The.Border.html

[polarisrider1]

To enter Canada you do not need a passport. To return You DO. (crazy rule to pass blame on the US). Anyways, an Enhanced Drivers license or passport is required to return to US. This takes some time and effort. You can get passport pics taken at Rite-Aid, Walgreens, Meijer store photo area, Maybe Walmart. Passport apps at most Post offices.

[polarisrider1]

More research on the passports and criminal records, etc.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g153339-s602/Canada:Crossing.The.Border.html

excellent! Thank you techsledder!

[cuzzinolaf]

Would crossing the border in Ontario be the same as crossing the border in BC? Would there be any differences besides the customs agent?

[polarisrider1]

Any thoughts or plans on having guides up there in Revy?

There will be guides. It will be similiar to how Togwotee works. This is extreme mountain riding.

[techsledder]

There will be guides. It will be similiar to how Togwotee works. This is extreme mountain riding.

Yeah I figured we'd be including guides... Just checking.

[techsledder]

Would crossing the border in Ontario be the same as crossing the border in BC? Would there be any differences besides the customs agent?

I'm sure they are like any other government agancy. One dude could suck one could be sweet as pie. Best not to mess with the system and just plan for the "worst" crossing guard, put all our ducks in a row and do a check with sites like this: http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/visit/conviction.asp.

[fgsacts]

I followed the links techsledder posted (thank you) and don't believe I will have a problem. Since the offense was so long ago it appears I will be "deemed rehabilitated." The site does suggest qualifying this with an embassy prior to traveling to Canada. I attemtped to call the embassy in Detroit but their message states that they will only handle these matters in writing. I sent them an e-mail and received confirmation back from them that it has been received. We will see what they have to say.

If anyone has first hand experience with this type of thing please let me know. Taking a trip over the border as a test sounds like a good idea. Reason for a road trip on the bike this summer. Wayne, you in?

[polarisrider1]

I followed the links techsledder posted (thank you) and don't believe I will have a problem. Since the offense was so long ago it appears I will be "deemed rehabilitated." The site does suggest qualifying this with an embassy prior to traveling to Canada. I attemtped to call the embassy in Detroit but their message states that they will only handle these matters in writing. I sent them an e-mail and received confirmation back from them that it has been received. We will see what they have to say.

If anyone has first hand experience with this type of thing please let me know. Taking a trip over the border as a test sounds like a good idea. Reason for a road trip on the bike this summer. Wayne, you in?

I am In. Wawa bound. I have great friends there we have a place to stay. The wife wants to go?? She rode her bike the other day around town. 32 degrees out. Andy you created a monster.

[polarisrider1]

I am In. Wawa bound. I have great friends there we have a place to stay. The wife wants to go?? She rode her bike the other day around town. 32 degrees out. Andy you created a monster.

http://www.laconiamcweek.com/ We get to do the border 2 times each way if we do this. Great practice. Do you think we can get TJ across?

[techsledder]

Looks like the closest (to Revy) international airport is in Kelowna, BC?</SPAN>

[fgsacts]

http://www.laconiamcweek.com/ We get to do the border 2 times each way if we do this. Great practice. Do you think we can get TJ across?

To the best of my knowledge, lol, but you never know.

[fgsacts]

Looks like the closest (to Revy) international airport is in Kelowna, BC?</SPAN>

Any idea how far that is?

[polarisrider1]

http://revelstokecc.bc.ca/snow/index.html some fun reading!

[cuzzinolaf]

Any idea how far that is?

125 miles.

You can also fly into Calgary and drive 250 miles.

[polarisrider1]

125 miles.

You can also fly into Calgary and drive 250 miles.

driving from my house to Andy's house then thru the twin cities it is 2050 miles. I will ship sled and fly in most likely. 34-40 hr. drive

[fgsacts]

If I ride in the truck I am only going to eat Hormel chili and bean burritos. Just a fair warning.

[polarisrider1]

driving from my house to Andy's house then thru the twin cities it is 2050 miles. I will ship sled and fly in most likely. 34-40 hr. drive

as a comparision Togwotee is a 24 hr. drive straight through at 1540 miles.

[polarisrider1]

If I ride in the truck I am only going to eat Hormel chili and bean burritos. Just a fair warning.

Nothing better than truck stop Monster Burritos. lol. Andy you starting the list?

[fgsacts]

Currently flights into Calgary from Chicago are $712 non stop and $456 one stop round trip. Flights into Kelowna are $1233 non stop and $694 one stop round trip. Trip is going to be pricey. I don't think I could sit in the back of a truck that long. If I am going to do this trip I need to do it before I am as old as Wayne.

[polarisrider1]

Currently flights into Calgary from Chicago are $712 non stop and $456 one stop round trip. Flights into Kelowna are $1233 non stop and $694 one stop round trip. Trip is going to be pricey. I don't think I could sit in the back of a truck that long. If I am going to do this trip I need to do it before I am as old as Wayne.

lmfao, thank you.

[cuzzinolaf]

Currently flights into Calgary from Chicago are $712 non stop and $456 one stop round trip. Flights into Kelowna are $1233 non stop and $694 one stop round trip. Trip is going to be pricey. I don't think I could sit in the back of a truck that long. If I am going to do this trip I need to do it before I am as old as Wayne.

I say drive and rotate drivers. It is only an additional 12 hours (Only LOL) by the time you fly to Kelowna with transfers, get through customs, get a rental car or shuttle, and then arrive in Revy. You're paying for a plane ticket, a rental car or shuttle service, etc.

Do the math on just gas to drive. About $200 each without a trailer. A flight would be $700+, rental car would be a decent amount because we probably couldn't drop it off in Revy, etc.

Driving into BC would only be the gravy. Talk about an experience to see those mountains and snow in the distance.

[attack_06]

i have crossed bc and manitoba in semi truck its the same everywhere but takes 3 4 hr when hauling us freight

[attack_06]

also in semi the drive is easyer taking 94 to nd then up 29 to winnipeg then can 17 to calgary versus 94 all way thru montana and into bc longer and more difficult for semi

[techsledder]

i have crossed bc and manitoba in semi truck its the same everywhere but takes 3 4 hr when hauling us freight

Wanna drive?! Just kidding...

[fgsacts]

31 hours from Chicago not including stops. No thank you. I'll fly. If this is supposed to be the trip of a life time, I am willing to spend more. It is going to cost a s**tload anyway. Air fare - $500, sled transport - $400?, lodging - $600, rental car - $250, Sled fuel - $150, Guide tips - $100, food and drink - $200. Figure $2000+. I am guessing at some of the prices based on zero research and may be on the low side.

[cuzzinolaf]

31 hours from Chicago not including stops. No thank you. I'll fly.

Sally!

[fgsacts]

I will even wear the damn dress thank you very much. The ride back is the bad one.

[getsome]

31 hours from Chicago not including stops. No thank you. I'll fly. If this is supposed to be the trip of a life time, I am willing to spend more. It is going to cost a s**tload anyway. Air fare - $500, sled transport - $400?, lodging - $600, rental car - $250, Sled fuel - $150, Guide tips - $100, food and drink - $200. Figure $2000+. I am guessing at some of the prices based on zero research and may be on the low side.

I came up with $3500 for my trip, with the addition of rental sled...

[fgsacts]

What do you figure the rental sled will be? $1200?

[getsome]

What do you figure the rental sled will be? $1200?

I meant my total estimate came higher, a little higher on everything.
That's just the number I set for myself, after my research.
Like they say, trip of lifetime.

[fgsacts]

Never mind, found it. $308/day for a 800 Summit. I believe insurance is mandatory at $30/day also. Depending on the Mom's price it will be cheaper to bring your own don't you think?

[fgsacts]

They have a six day/five night all inclusive package for $2838.21 plus tax (US dollars). Would still need to add air fare, sled fuel, sled insurance, and transportation from the airport. $3500 is still going to be low if you are renting a sled.

[blutooth]

Well I'll bite... I'd love to go to BC. They get something like 50 feet of snow a year, and all powder!

Anyway, from what I have read, Revy is great, but it is the tourist area, there are lots of great lodges a little south with the same kind of riding:

http://www.sledsicamous.com

You could also fly to Vancouver and have an easier drive than through the mountains from Calgary, but Patches is right, you are adding lots of expense, airfare, rental car, etc.

I would think with the right group of guys you could do the trip in 30 hours from Milwaukee (1800 miles to Revy) by taking turns driving 5 hour shifts.

We had a guy with a recent DUI go on the last hunting trip I went on to Quebec. If I recall, he got a letter from his state rep or something as well as being prescreened by customs - he has a whole bunch of extra paperwork when we got there but it was no problem for him, and we were bringing a whole lot of guns with us...

Blutooth

[cuzzinolaf]

Well I'll bite... I'd love to go to BC. They get something like 50 feet of snow a year, and all powder!

Anyway, from what I have read, Revy is great, but it is the tourist area, there are lots of great lodges a little south with the same kind of riding:

http://www.sledsicamous.com

You could also fly to Vancouver and have an easier drive than through the mountains from Calgary, but Patches is right, you are adding lots of expense, airfare, rental car, etc.

I would think with the right group of guys you could do the trip in 30 hours from Milwaukee (1800 miles to Revy) by taking turns driving 5 hour shifts.

We had a guy with a recent DUI go on the last hunting trip I went on to Quebec. If I recall, he got a letter from his state rep or something as well as being prescreened by customs - he has a whole bunch of extra paperwork when we got there but it was no problem for him, and we were bringing a whole lot of guns with us...

Blutooth

I was thinking the same thing about being touristy. I still don't think they get the amount of people that the Snowies or Rabbit Ears would get. Saying that I have also thought about Golden and Sicamous as well. They are both fairly close and I don't think get as much traffic. I think whoever offers the best package should get the bid.... Revy being last. I initially said Revelstoke to Wayne because everyone knows Revy. If we are flying I'd say go for Stewart and be done with it.

[Firecatguy]

I think we're good with whatever is safe, sure, and cheapest. I spoke with Wayne and he still needs to work out any and all details with Rick Mom. I sort of assumed you guys would be in on this trip too. It was originally Techsledder's idea and Wayne went to town LOL.



I'm sure a package price could be put together to include guides. I would think it should be sorted by riding style or the type of riding people want to do.

you must forgot I told you were setting same thing up!!!!

[cuzzinolaf]

you must forgot I told you were setting same thing up!!!!

Then take the reins and lead us to the pow my friend.

[polarisrider1]

Actually I had to go to work, back now.lol. We can't do much until we get Rick to look into it as far as the trucking goes unless someone else steps forward. His truck hauls 24-26 sleds. He also knows how to negotiate group rates for a pkg. deal. It will be way cheaper to ship your sled out and back than it will be to rent. I have no problem driving out with the suburban and 4-5guys and shipping sleds. We could pull a trailer to. I am sure we will have many variations of getting out and back. I have been stuck in closed airports before, not fun. Road trip will be fine with me. We do driving shifts by 1 tank of gas then switch at fill up.

[cuzzinolaf]

Rusty has a plan Wayne. He has someone on the ground in Revy and a good idea. I'm not going to steal his thunder but I think we should let him take the lead since he's been planning this. I wasn't expecting you to post this so quickly and didn't get to talk to him about any of it. He did mention to me a while ago that this is something they wanted to do. I just didn't know he was actively working on it. I will say Rusty's friend owns a trucking company they're trying to do this as cheap as possible.

[polarisrider1]

Sounds great. I jumped on the idea because smurfrider and I were talking about it yesterday. Count us in (2) so far. We were going to drive out and still can. taking the suburban and 2 place enclosed with our sleds. I am very flexable. keep me informed. I do suggest Glacier house Resort since it is on site. But flexable on that too!

[polarisrider1]

Sounds great. I jumped on the idea because smurfrider and I were talking about it yesterday. Count us in (2) so far. We were going to drive out and still can. taking the suburban and 2 place enclosed with our sleds. I am very flexable. keep me informed. I do suggest Glacier house Resort since it is on site. But flexable on that too!

Okay firecatguy, your in charge. If you need help let me know and I will put Keith and Andy right on it. lol.

[fgsacts]

God help us Rusty is in charge, lol. I am good with whomever takes the lead. I heard back from Oh Canada and I don't think I will have an issue.

[fgsacts]

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If this describes your case you may be deemed rehabilitated and can enter Canada. We advise you to take along a recent FBI certificate and the court documentation regarding your conviction. It will be up to the officer at the Port-of-entry to decide if you can enter Canada or not.

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[polarisrider1]

So Andy, you completed rehab. Congrats are in order! We still doing a bike trip this summer to Canada?

[fgsacts]

I would like to test the waters before getting all the way to Revy or wherever we would cross the border. Sounds like the perfect reason for a road trip. Need to convince Keith that he needs yet another toy in the garage so he can join us. Rentals are not priced that bad either. Not sure of his experience level on a bike though.

[polarisrider1]

Rusty this is how we get sleds to Togwotee.

[Skylar]

Does anybody have any good pics of the inside of the "camper" you ride in? That really holds 18 guys?

[attack_06]

hate to say it but the rig alone will cost 3500 4000 in diesel their and back with curr prices i have hauled over size oshkosh fire truck from oshkosh wi to calgary int airport it hurts

[doospunk]

Their website has a photo gallery....

http://www.momsmotorsports.com/

[polarisrider1]

Does anybody have any good pics of the inside of the "camper" you ride in? That really holds 18 guys?

15 guys, 24-26 sleds.

[polarisrider1]

hate to say it but the rig alone will cost 3500 4000 in diesel their and back with curr prices i have hauled over size oshkosh fire truck from oshkosh wi to calgary int airport it hurts

Are you in?

[polarisrider1]

Rusty this is how we get sleds to Togwotee.

Like I said, This is how I and fellow riders get sleds to Togwotee Snowies and Cooke City. This may not even be an option. We have Rusty working on the trip and other options and details still need to beworked out. This Thread was started to find out if there is an interest. Contact Firecatguy if you would like to go and if he would like your input. This trip is for next winter. We have time.

[polarisrider1]

God help us Rusty is in charge, lol. I am good with whomever takes the lead. I heard back from Oh Canada and I don't think I will have an issue.

Rusty will do fine! After all he has all us to help him if he needs it! Looks like we will have snow coming around thursday. We all need a ride about now.

[Skylar]

Their website has a photo gallery....

http://www.momsmotorsports.com/

I have seen them, was hoping someone has a picture with people actually sitting in there.

Also, is it non smoking, smoking allowed?

[polarisrider1]

I have seen them, was hoping someone has a picture with people actually sitting in there.

Also, is it non smoking, smoking allowed?

It is what it is. Nothing fancy by no means. Smoking is allowed and it can get thick in there. They have a turbo fan in the "bathroom" area That kicks it out pretty good. Problem is once the guys start drinking they tend to forget about the smoking area. I do not smoke and servived the trip out and back 2 times in the time machine as I call it. It is most definately a guy thing to ride in there. Rick Mom promotes his trips as, " I will Haul you, your sled and your gear for 1 money. Or any combination of the three". So many will send out sleds in truck and fly out. This post is a side track from original thread, but since I am a friend of Rick Mom and he is out on a trip right now I felt i could answer your question. I don't think this is the plan to get to Revy. It was an initial idea. Contact Firecatguy for questions. and techsledder?

[attack_06]

would love to go but have to see how work and money gos this year one more thing pics show rig looking kind of rough hope everything is in working order and dot inspec whole diff game taking big rig across border customs and patrol can stop u dead in your tracks and u will sit there at border until its fixed if anything is wrong

[cuzzinolaf]

This is the reason why Revelstoke.

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197709

[Skylar]

It is what it is. Nothing fancy by no means. Smoking is allowed and it can get thick in there. They have a turbo fan in the "bathroom" area That kicks it out pretty good. Problem is once the guys start drinking they tend to forget about the smoking area. I do not smoke and servived the trip out and back 2 times in the time machine as I call it. It is most definately a guy thing to ride in there. Rick Mom promotes his trips as, " I will Haul you, your sled and your gear for 1 money. Or any combination of the three". So many will send out sleds in truck and fly out. This post is a side track from original thread, but since I am a friend of Rick Mom and he is out on a trip right now I felt i could answer your question. I don't think this is the plan to get to Revy. It was an initial idea. Contact Firecatguy for questions. and techsledder?

Thanks Wayne, I guess I was mostly asking about Moms other trips.

BC would rawk for sure, just don't think I could ever afford it. :(

[cuzzinolaf]

BC would rawk for sure, just don't think I could ever afford it. :(

You have a year to save. One less cheese burger, a few less beers, and just ride like a Sally and don't break anything.... you'll be good to go.

[fgsacts]

this is the reason why revelstoke.

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197709

wow!

[techsledder]

This is the reason why Revelstoke.

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197709

X2... and hence the reason I must go there....

[techsledder]

How about Rossland, B.C? I'm liking Krazy Canadian's last post on 1/18/2010 : http://www.backcountryrebels.com/showthread.php?t=1520&page=2

[polarisrider1]

How about Rossland, B.C? I'm liking Krazy Canadian's last post on 1/18/2010 : http://www.backcountryrebels.com/showthread.php?t=1520&page=2

It will be Revy for this group. It is the creme' dela creme' of riding! (nash I am waiting for you). The Krazy Canadian totally cracks me up. He can ride. This trip will be a little more spendy than most, but it will be something you talk about for years. Live like your dieing!! and check yes I am in!! If it is important the money and time appears! If not you can read about it when we get back!

[jmom800x]

Wayne,
We have already told you that Revy is not an option for us. It is not feasable with the issues of bonding, licensing, overall cost, and not to mention crossing the border horrors.

Our mission is to provide a COST FRIENDLY way to hit the mountains snowmobiling, Revy is not one of those options.

To set some facts straight.
The truck no longer looks rough(see photos below) and will pass all DOT inspections.
It will fit 15 passangers. There are two queen beds, two double beds, eight bench seats, three capatains chairs, two tvs, and and emergency restroom. The quarters are larger than they seem in the picture. There is smoking in the restroom stall ONLY which is equiped with a vent fan and, is very effective.

If anyone has any questions reguarding Moms' trips, feel free to direct them to me.

[attack_06]

ill say u got alot crammed into a small space i love it deffinately in for a trip in the near future i thought u would say that about revy taking big truck into cann dealing with customs is fun isnt it if only their was mountains and snow in mexico

[Firecatguy]

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[fgsacts]

Tease!

[longtrack]

Looks to me like 4 of you should hop in a Truck with a big enclosed Trailer and 5 Sleds(1 extra) and head out there. We do it all the time when we go out west. Just take the Road that runs a little further north.

I have rode Atv's in BC just north of Revelstoke and had fun, and that was with a Wife and two Kids. Yes it is a great Trip, and was very memorable.

Just have your Passports and all Insurance, and no one along that has had any problems with the Law except for Speeding and little stuff. Also Tire Chains is a must have. The cost won't be that bad. I am taking the Wife and kids to Lava Mt next week and expect to do that for $3000 for all 4 of us, I know I could do revelstoke for $5000 for 4 of us. As long as you have the Truck and Big enclosed Trailer the rest is easy.

I would also like a nice Trail system for my old overweight Sled and from what I experienced in BC, the ATV Trail system was not up to par about 5 years ago and I have my doubts about a nice Snowmobile Trail system so let me know if there are Trails for me to ride on and maybe I will head up there for the scenery. I can get stuck in the UP if I want to.

[bearrassler]

I trailered up there twice in the erly 90's and it wasn't bad at all. I am quite a bit closer that you are but I think it was about 1200 or 1300 miles. We did it in the spring, the first year it was mid April and the second year it was late April and we came back in May. Snowmobiles were not very mountain friendly back then unless you customized one yourself and even then it was a far cry from what is available today. We stayed at Peaks Lodge the first year and a motel in town the second year (Day's Inn or similar.) We had to trailer about 5 miles each day and it snowed 7 out of 8 days we rode. The one day that the sun came out it was beautiful. The roads are good and the distance for me was about 300 miles farther than West Yellowstone so not that bad. Go for it.

[WIrider]

Little Brother does your wife know what you are up to???

[gogebic_sledder]

Just got back from Revi last week. I go out there every year for cat-skiing in the Monashees. It is the best in the world for steep and deep. Whether your on a sled, skis or board. Just be careful and wear a beacon, and know how to use them. Its sick

[techsledder]

Little Brother does your wife know what you are up to???

Don't stifle me...

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It’s time to honor the heros.
Written by Susie Rainsberry
March 15, 2010

It’s been several days now since the tragic avalanche at Turbo Hill. The latest reports are that two are deceased and three are still hospitalized. The media is also reporting that there were 200 snowmobilers at Turbo at the time of the slide. The avalanche is reported to have been up to 150 meters wide and 10 meters deep. That, my friends, is a BIG avalanche!

I’d like to put some perspective on this – a snowmobiler’s perspective. Apparently no one in the media is a snowmobiler or is concerned about taking the time to gather the facts – not just the bad, but the good as well. And there is good to be heard in this story. If you ask a snowmobiler – they’d be able to tell you what that is. But either the media isn’t asking, or has heard it and doesn’t feel that the facts are newsworthy.

However, I feel these facts are the MOST newsworthy topic of this entire tragedy.

Saturday afternoon, following the close of the events for the annual Big Iron Shootout, a large group of snowmobilers headed to Turbo Bowl to make a run at the hill. As the riders lined up at the bottom of the hill, the mass of spectators parked their sleds and prepared to enjoy the show. As one of the sleds turned out towards the top, the hillside gave way. Thundering down the mountain it came – taking sleds and riders with it. This powerful act of nature happens in a split second. There is no time to react.

The time to react is as soon as it stops. And react – with speed and knowledge – in the midst of chaos – is what those sledders did. There were no typical first responders to this catastrophe in the immediate moments following the avalanche. Only snowmobilers. Those same snowmobilers that the media is painting with a broad stroke as crazy, ignorant, thrill-seekers.

As a back country snowmobiler myself, I can tell you that ignorant is not a word that I would use to describe those survivors. I would call them heroes! And justly so. In the midst of what may have been the most terrifying minutes of their lives, they turned their avalanche beacons to search, they got out their probes and their shovels and they started rescue protocols IMMEDIATELY – likely while in a state of shock. They dug out those that were buried, they triaged the injured, they administered first aid, they built fires to keep them warm until the helicopters arrived. These people were heroic!! Without their quick and educated responses, many more people would have died.

I am angered that the media is so eager to report this story that they are being so disgraceful to the victims and survivors. These people need support and compassion. They do not need to be stereotyped and degraded in the media or by anyone else. Shame on you!! Didn’t your mother teach you better manners than that?

I’m not done though – there is way more information about snowmobilers in respect to the Big Iron Shootout and Revelstoke that the media hasn’t covered yet. While they gleefully report that this is an unsanctioned (I’ll get to that in a moment) event drew 200 sledders (despite the grave warnings from the avalanche center), what they aren’t telling you is that there are likely double that number of snowmobilers who DIDN’T attend this year’s event – because of the conditions. Snowmobilers who DID heed the warnings.

As I was reading the snowmobiling forums and Facebook on Saturday evening, the same story continued to repeat itself – people concerned about friends who generally attend the BIS, those friends checking in and saying they didn’t go this year, or they were in the area but avoided Turbo Bowl because of the warnings and the conditions they were already aware of. You see, back country snowmobilers are often in the back country two or more days a week and already have first hand insight to the conditions.

Regarding the word being used in almost every story – unsanctioned. It is true that there is no sanctioning organization for this event. Not the town of Revelstoke nor the Revelstoke Snowmobile Club. However, just because it’s not sanctioned does not mean that it is illegal.

Snowmobilers often gather in large groups to ride with friends who are generally dispersed all over Canada and the United States. I personally rode with a group of 30 riders at an “unsanctioned” event in Wyoming. Oops! I also rode at another “unsanctioned” event, ummm, better make that two, here in Oregon. Rest assured, I am not a criminal nor are any of the snowmobilers that I know.

The internet keeps the snowmobiling community connected. There are 1,000s of unsanctioned events that simply start by someone saying, “hey – who wants to ride this weekend?” Next thing ya know, word spreads about how much fun everyone had and it snowballs from there (pun intended). They grow into these annual events…”same date next year?”

So, here’s what happens next – the date is set. Motel rooms are reserved. Trucks and sleds are fueled. Vacation time is requested. Then individuals, families and social groups all head into a remote mountain town. They buy. They buy. They buy a lot!! They spend money – because they can.

It is with great sadness that I have to dispel the myth that mountain snowmobilers are a bunch of rednecks. All you really need to do is add up the costs to outfit an individual – much less an entire family – with a sled and the proper safety gear. Since this article is really targeted at those individuals who are not mountain sledders, I will point out that everything – got that?…EVERYTHING, on your person and on your sled is part and parcel of your survival gear. From your gloves, to your coat, to the sunglasses in your backpack. Trying to save a dime in buying a coat is really not advised, when that coat may be the only thing protecting you from the elements if you have to stay overnight. With all that said, here’s a run down of estimated costs of the primary accessories needed to sled in the back country.

• Sled $6,000-$14,000 USD
• Clothes (including base, mid and outer layers – top & bottom) $800-$1,200 USD
• Boots/gloves/helmet $245-$800 USD
• Backpack (non-avy) $60-$120 USD
• Backpack (avy) $1,000-$1,200 USD
• Body armor (tek vest, knee pads, etc) $60-$300 USD
• Beacon, probe, shovel $250-$400 USD

This doesn’t include a lot of items, such as matches, radios, compass, fire starter, flashlight, and the list goes on, and the costs add up. It would be GREATLY appreciated if the media would STOP perpetuating the myths that sledders are ignorant, beer-swilling, couch-potatoes. Because it’s simply not true.

The fact is that mountain sledders do not fit a stereotypical mold. They come from all areas of the business world…from CEOs to millworkers. They have families and they are single. They are old and they are young. They are world-class athletes and they are physically handicapped. They survive corporate down-sizing, cancer, divorces, etc….just like everyone else.

The thing that binds us together is our great love for the back country in the winter. We are modern day adventurers. We want to get out there – in the mountains. We want to explore and play and wonder at the beauty. We love the snow! When it covers the trees, when it flies up in our faces, when it gives us a playground of vast proportions. That is when we are in heaven. That is when our souls glow.

We are not anything that the media will have tried to make us out to be in the last couple of days. We are so much more. It’s truly a pity that the media isn’t interested in shining any light on the truth.

The truth is - the Turbo Bowl avy survivors are HEROS. We in the snowmobiling communities – far and wide – are praying for the full recovery of those injured, in body and in spirit. And finally, with great compassion and sympathy we extend our heartfelt condolences to the families of those who perished.

I wrote this and I am Susie Rainsberry, Oregon resident, back-country snowmobiler. I provide free and complete liberty for others to share and disperse this message. The time has come to stop the slandering of good individuals just because they ride snowmobiles.
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http://www.canada.com/news/crack%20down%20snowmobiling%20after%20deadly%20ava lanche/2684531/story.html

[techsledder]

Plenty of it here, March 30th 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGvPwt8iUCM

Norona is from North Vancouver, BC... must be a rough life living up there! :D