Klim Togwotee bibs opinions

[jccams]

Looking at a pair of Klim Togwotee bibs. I know these aren't insulated. I do mostly trail riding, aggressive at times. How much extra clothing goes into layering with these bibs to stay warm on a cold trail ride?

Jeff

[skylar]

All I ever wear is a pair of thin polypropylene long underwear, and then a pair of fleece pants, then my Tog bibs. Have ridden in -12F temps before and have been fine.

[techsledder]

The key is to layer with synthetic or wool items below the pants. NO COTTON ANYTHING. You may be different from the next guy as to what you’ll be comfortable with as to how much. First time out with the bibs go with what Skylar is suggesting and add or subtract as you see fit. I myself wear just a part of good poly/synthetic long underwear, but I am generally moving a lot and rarely seated. Either way you’ll be happy you bought the bibs.

[einne]

got to agree. bought klim last year, and made the right choice.

[Hoosier]

You guys prefer these over the klimate series for trail riders?

[techsledder]

Sure why not. For me the choice is a natural fit from my other hobbies. I hunt, ski and snowshoe. All sports where layering properly can make or break your day. Especially hunting, if you’re going to be active, layer way down in insulation, if you’re sitting around mostly then you add layers. Simple trial and error will begin to show you what works. If you’re a main trail rider the same logic can be applied. Also, this way when you’re riding in late spring you could just ride with your bibs only and since their Goretex you’ll stay dry with out the extra 200 grams of Thinsulate built in. This past spring the trails (on and off main) were wet when the temps swung and I stayed bone dry even when the slushy top layer of the snow pack was being kicked up all over… especially when following a mtn sled!

[nitroman]

<font color="ff0000">As said layering is the key! Under armour and Freerides most days unless it&#39;s really cold then maybe fleece pants also. Cotton kills and that goes for the skivvies too! I got some Champion C9 gear skivvies at target for less than $10 and they work just as good as the UA gear. You will absolutley love the Klim bibs it&#39;s nice to be dry at the end of the day when all your buds are sopping wet and cold!</font>

[Hoosier]

So is the layering system basically 4 layers? I assume you always have the base layer, a thin midlayer and a shell &#40;i.e., you&#39;re not going riding with just a base layer and an uninsulated shell&#41;. Then, only when it is very cold, you add a heavier midlayer &#40;this is the layer that you add and remove depending on the temperature and type of riding you are doing&#41;?

[Firecatguy]

add their boots too sweet set up

then next year add the rest of there gear...

I think klim is taking over the sled clothing business lol

[polarisrider1]

I wear base layer Klim &#34;long Johns&#34; then Klim fleece pants &#40;love them&#41; and Klim tog. bibs. top I have the klim &#34;Long John&#34; top, klim jersey, Tec Vest and Polaris RMK coat because I like the length in the back and fits nice over the vest. Klim Togwotee gloves with the inserts out and RU outside boots. Helmet is Motocross style GSL or GSI? not sure and either Rudy Project, Scott or spy goggles with a HMK backpack. To me this is great for off Trail riding. On trail break out my doo modular helmet and put the liners in the gloves. By the way my Togwotee bibs have insulation in them.

[nitroman]

<font color="ff0000">Base layer: Under Armour or equivelent
Mid layer: Fleece pants
Outer layer: Klim Bibs or pants
Same way for the top and yes I do go with just the base layer and outer layer if its above 20 degrees out. Mountain riding is fairly aggressive so the mid layer is not always needed and I usually just go with the base layer-tec vest-outer layer on top to stay cool. Unlike trail riding in the mountains it&#39;s usually hard to stay cool.</font>

[01edgex6]

I have a used pair of red/black Klim bibs for sale if you are interested. I am only selling because I changed sleds and colors. I wore those bibs in Canada last year with a light base and mid layer down to -25 F on a Rev XP and wasn&#39;t cold at all.
http://www.johndee.com/discuss/messages/25552/114556.html?1253075203

[jccams]

Wrong color for me, sorry. I do have a question about size. I have a 33 waist and a 31 inseam, according to the Klim sizing chart and my experience with other garments, med. is correct. I have heard they run small but I think I would swim in a large. Can anyone tell me from experience if my measurements would put me in a med?

[rmk600]

I&#39;m 6&#39; 0&#34; 33-34 waist and wear large/tall and they are great. Klim replaced 1 pair after 2 years because zipper broke-no charge. Can&#39;t say enough good things about them.