View Full Version : New sled, new direction.
09-24-2009, 06:51 AM
Well now I can say I've owned all four of the major brands of snowmobiles. I just brought home my new sled. It is an all black 2010 Yamaha Nytro FX XTX. I've been riding a 600 SDI REV for the past three seasons,but with 6600 miles it was time for something new. I have a 52 year old spine and it needs all the pampering I can give it without actualy having to slow down. I do most of my riding in the UP as I'm from Traverse city, mi. I like the Seney / Grand Marais area but I've been from top to bottom. I hope we have another good winter and I can hardley wait for the first good snow. See you on the trails.
09-24-2009, 07:25 AM
Congratulations! thats quite a sled!
09-24-2009, 09:34 AM
Welcome aboard Chuck! Its nice to see people in Michigan still working and able to help boost the economy a bit with a new sled purchase. You say you have owned all 4 brands so I am just curious what was your first sled/brand? Have you ever owned a Yamaha before and why did you choose that one other than for the ride? I hope you get alot of good miles this year with your new sled!
09-24-2009, 12:56 PM
Uncle ED great to hear from you! I won't count the 1968 MOTO SKI my dad bought. My first sled was a 1972 440 Panther. Once I grew up and started working for a living they are as follows: 96 AC EXT 580. 98 polaris XC 700, 99 AC ZR 600 EFI, 2003 XCSP 600 POLARIS, 2005 MXZ 600SDI SKI DOO. One reason I bought the Yam was I'm tired 0f having to buy a new sled every 6000 miles. Does this tell anything about me?
congrats! Just bought 09 xtx myself, also 52 years old. Enjoy!
09-24-2009, 01:41 PM
Welcome nytro!! Grand Marais, MI is a great place to ride.
09-24-2009, 02:22 PM
Let us know how you like, post a pic if you can.
09-24-2009, 03:19 PM
Nytro, congrats on your new sled, your gonna love it. Loved mine last year. That XTX is awesome choice for UP trails but also for jumping off for a little powder. And that motor will keep you smiling all winter long, not the fastest top end but great throttle response. Last year was the most fun I had snowmobiling since I bought my first sled in '97
pictures, pictures http://www.johndee.com/discuss/clipart/happy.gif
09-24-2009, 06:09 PM
What's the secret to posting pictures. I have the digital camera. Any special pixel size?
09-24-2009, 06:55 PM
posting pics has always been a hit or miss thing with me. On the Enter Discusion page look to the bottom (may have to scroll down). Instructions are there on how to post pics. Follow instructions to the exact. You can go to the practice post area for that. Good luck! I make the pics. small. Don't give up it will work.
09-24-2009, 06:58 PM
Congrats on the new sled! My Dad bought 2 new Vector LTX's last year- 61 years old now with 2 new hips (second one yesterday). He loves the ride. That sled should give you many more good years of riding.
09-24-2009, 06:58 PM
Also on the "enter now" page are some rules. By the posting instructions. I read these alot. lol, and again Welcome aboard!
09-24-2009, 09:25 PM
Nytro, I came very close to buying this same sled myself. I looked closely at it and was ready to move, but I thought it was more for powder than what I needed. THe long track on the XTX is supposed to make very good use of the motors seamless power. Tipped up rails put alot of track to the ground and makes the XTX quicker than the shorter SE. I ended up picking up an APEX LTX GT, have only six more rows of studding to go and I'm done. Then I wait for the Bergstrom triple points and I'm ready to go. I set my sag-in and all my clickers last weekend so I'm ready to rock n roll, even at 55. Let us know how you like the sled.
09-24-2009, 10:48 PM
I wish I was more computer savey so I could figure out this picture thing. I just installed the high windshield and deflectors made just for the all black 2010, they look great. From what I'm hearing, production of the XTX was cut way back and not many black ones either. I'm thinking no studs, but I always say that. I'll have to see how 144"s hooks-up.
09-24-2009, 10:53 PM
Nytro e-mail me your pics, I will put them up for you. http://www.johndee.com/discuss/clipart/happy.gif
09-25-2009, 08:02 AM
Why do have to buy a new sled every 6,000 miles? A sled that is maintained is hardly broken in with 6,000 miles.
I usually try to get at least 25,000 on one before it's retired. My 2003 will hit 20,000 this season.
09-25-2009, 08:41 AM
bruno, The bigest reason I've been buying a new sled every 6000 miles is that's about three seasons of riding. I do all my own maintenance, can't count the number of engines/cars I've worked on. The tech. has improved so much over the years, riding a four year old sled is like driving a model T. That having been said, my wife's 05 600 sdi spun a crank bearing @ 2500 miles ( I have the same sled) and I know alot of guys that are only getting between 5 to 8k out of thier top ends. My sled has 6600 mi. on it and I don't want to spend the money on it. ps. I use good full syn. oil
09-25-2009, 10:07 AM
You should like the Nytro, I rode one last season for a 100 miles or so, The 4 strokes have come along way since the R1. It is deceiving how light the machine feels compared to it's actual weight. I bet you could get way more than 6,600 miles the nytro without worrying about a catastrophic failure. The fuel economy is also very good compared to a compriable 2 stroke. I will more than likely go with a 4 stroke once I put my Pro-X out to pasture.
09-25-2009, 10:37 AM
My 4-stroke Vector was an eye opener for me. I was surprised by the smooth power delievery, overall engine performance and handling, considering the published weight. You don't feel the weight on the trails. (But you do feel it when trying to move on and off the shop dolly's) If you'd a told me 10 years ago I'd own all Yam's today I'd never have believed it. I strongly considered a 600 E-Tek prior to buying the APEX, but when you compare them side by side, the Doo just seems cheaply engineered - the fit and finish.
Nytro, if you are riding more than 50% of the time off trail, I wouldn't stud it. If you do more trail riding, to get this sled to hookup you'll need to stud it. That motor has a ton of low end grunt and you won't put the power to the ground (track spin) without studs. JMO.
09-25-2009, 10:51 AM
fusion, my wife and I like doing weekend back-pack rides in the UP, 300+ miles (she's a trooper) but when I ride with the guys the more off trail riding the better! I should have plenty of time to decide.
09-25-2009, 07:13 PM
Here are 4 pics of Nytro's new ride. Pretty sweet!
09-25-2009, 08:22 PM
I love the yammie blue, but that is one saweet looking mochine.
I'm happy with my 08 vector,@ 7000 clicks,would like to have the 2010 with the slightly detuned "Nytro" 1049cc mill.
Sounds like you and yur wife ride like we do, we put a few 300's on her Rage this past season, mostly in da UP.
Yur gonna love bein able to pin the throttle as long as you care to on the rr beds and not even think about a burndown.
09-25-2009, 09:16 PM
snobuilder, blue is my favorite color, esp. Yamaha blue. I would have been just as happy with a new 09. Black is pretty cool too, and maybe a little rare this year. Even stock, the sound is great.
09-25-2009, 10:47 PM
Sharp looking Yamaha! I like the black it will go good with white.
I saw someplace some one had a yellow with the white and black racing strip kenny roberts style that was a sweet looking rice grinder
ps nitro what a shock. a doo with a spun crank bearing who would have thought that would happen to a doo.almost every 3rd guy I know who has had a doo including my self 2 times has spun a doo crank bearing.
09-26-2009, 06:29 AM
ezra, Ya and it was my wifes sled (600sdi GSX}, so it wasn't like it got run hard or anything. The mag side bearing went, I was told that was a little unusual. I found a guy online ( THE SKI DOO CLINIC ) that rebuilds the cranks with sealed bearings. We have about 650 miles (two rides) on the rebuilt motor, so far so good!
09-26-2009, 08:44 AM
nice sled....i almost had one myself until i sat on xtx and ski doo xp right next to one another. man just more legroom on the xp. that nytro motor will entertain you for years to come!
09-26-2009, 09:49 AM
Nice looking sled Nytro! Gonna be a long wait to December for you.....and me. I'm going to get some pictures of the APEX this weekend and I'll post.
09-26-2009, 11:14 AM
Great looking sled nytro! I LOVE that people are finally giving the four strokes a chance. I don't care what anybody says, NOBODY touches Yamaha as far as fit and finish. I'll take a little extra weight over a cheap feeling, cheap looking, lighter sled. After getting the 2010 buyers guide in the mail this week, I was surprised (happily) that there are plenty of "other" sleds being sold that cost MORE than a Yamaha. I was shocked to see that mine is OVER 10k now....YIKES! Speaking of mine...Here it is...
Congrats on your purchase, now you get to stare at it for the next two months! http://www.johndee.com/discuss/clipart/happy.gif
09-26-2009, 07:08 PM
nice sled you will like alot
09-26-2009, 07:38 PM
It looks so clean and shiny. It needs some pine tar on it.
09-26-2009, 09:52 PM
Two months + is going to feel like a lifetime before I can ride it. I need to go to the snow show in Novi to pick-up a bounch of "this & that, but even that's not for another month. I think my wife and I need to come up to the UP and do some trail brushing, that would kill a little time. After that all that's left is shooting the poop with you guys.
09-28-2009, 03:50 PM
WOW I want one!!!! That is nice machine!! Have fun
09-28-2009, 08:51 PM
Nytro, you are da man! That black looks great in your pics. I also have an XTX and its awesome. I thought it might be made for the younger guys but nope, this 49 year old does just fine after 2,000 miles on the ground and a few more in the air. Fusion, that APEX LTX GT is another great choice, its probably next for me but the XTX stays too!
I don't recall wishing I had studded it though, keep the suspension a bit soft and it hooks up great. I figure that track is heavy enough as it is. I'll look for you in the UP.
09-28-2009, 10:33 PM
Sweet ride! I just picked up a new 09 LTX GT so I will be watching the forecasts with you this winter!
09-28-2009, 10:44 PM
Doug, I take it your xtx is a blue 09, is that right? I'm glad to hear you like the way it rides. All I know is I love the sound of the four stroke, and the black is pretty cool. I ride alot in the Seney and Grand Marais area, but with frequent trips all over the UP. See at a watering hole sometime maybe. Nytro
09-28-2009, 10:56 PM
cobalt, I bet that thing will ROCK!
09-28-2009, 10:58 PM
Nytro, mine is white but the brother just picked up a new 09 in blue; we always run together. We ride the Western UP mostly, starting with Twin Lakes on December 10 at 8:00 PM. We will be in Greenland at 8:10.
How is that for anxious? I would love to get your way as well. We will see what we can do.
As for the ride, we did a 825 mile back pack run and I never felt better.
09-29-2009, 06:10 AM
Doug, I have been riding the first week in december (" The boys trip") ever sence the winter of 1995. Only two years, no snow and one of those we rented quads, it was a blast. I've been to the wetern UP a couple of times, LK Gogebic, Silver City. I'll be doing trail clean-up in Copper Harbor area Oct. 23/24.
09-29-2009, 11:01 AM
Nytro, great choice. You too cobalt. I love them both. Doug, yours is fine but way more sled then you can handle..... (I'm the brother he mentions above) I've been looking at my new blue xtx in my garage since April. Last year I was on an 02 xcsp 500. Turned 10,000 miles on that trip Doug wrote about. That was a great sled but I'm glad to have moved up. See you in da yoop!
09-29-2009, 10:06 PM
cobalt, your new sled looks great! Rod and Tom have a great dealership that is very close to home. I really like the Ez-Pro Sled Scoot that is made right in our back yard (Freedom, WI).
With the cooler weather and all the nice new sled pics I am getting the itch! Thanks for posting all the pics.
10-05-2009, 05:22 PM
I've got a couple of questions for anybody with a 08-2010 Nytro, 1) Where is the a good spot for the registration stickers? 2)Did you buy an extended warranty, I did, 5 years. I now see that had I known I was goihg to buy a Yamaha earlier I could have got it for free. I still got a great deal.
10-05-2009, 05:32 PM
I put my sticker up high on the side panel behind the vent. I was worried about it ripping off or getting pulled over if it was to low, how ever I have seen lots of sticker on the side panel under the Yamahalube sticker.
yeah got the extended warrenty when I snow checked it for like a $100 bucks, pretty much a no brainer. I mean lot easier selling a used sled with a warrenty
10-06-2009, 09:58 AM
To prevent the sticker from coming off I recommend that you dab a little clear finger nail polish on each of the four corners, it works great and you can hardly see it!
10-06-2009, 10:16 AM
I put mine under the Yamalube decal (Yamaha on a pre- 2010) and it held on fine. One wouldn't think so due to the texture of the plastic but a Wisconsin sticker did work.
To me, the most out of the way but legal location is what I would want.
Also to all Nytro riders, I would be interested in hearing some of the suspension adjustments you found to work. So far, I have only increased the clicker controls on the top of each shock about 2 -3 notches. This greatly reduced the roll out effect on corners.
10-06-2009, 12:30 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of Yam 4s. The black looks sweet! Let us know how you like it once you get it tweaked for your riding style.
10-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Anybody talk Hambone into going on the "Boy's Trip" again?
10-07-2009, 07:23 PM
billy, hambone doesn't do any boys trip planning any more. Last year your dad put it together, it was great! I called him last monday and told him to count me in for this year again. How come there's a pic of my ugly mug under your profile.
10-07-2009, 08:30 PM
Did Hambone go last year? I was messing with you on the picture, forgot my email address was in my profile that would give away who I was. Thought you'd wonder who would have a picture of you. Nice looking sled! Not sure if I'll be up for Boy's Trip, I've been laid off for 4 months, just went back to work a couple weeks ago.
10-07-2009, 09:06 PM
billy, you probably don't know but I have CRS disease. I knew all that partying in high school would come at a price. Hambone was probably there at his cabin I don't recall for sure. I'm glad to hear your back to work. I'll need to work till my 80's to pay back all this debt I'm rackin up!
12-10-2011, 12:18 AM
my wifes 2010 vector short track is sweet. It could outrun my 2008 short track nytro consistently. Better hook up i guess. Better ride n guages too
my wifes 2010 vector short track is sweet. It could outrun my 2008 short track nytro consistently. Better hook up i guess. Better ride n guages too The Vector and the Nytro have different rear suspensions. The Vector's is 'faster' but the Nytro's is better for pounding on.
12-10-2011, 10:52 AM
Welcome to Yamaha family! You will love the XTX.
I am partial to black as well! Here is my XTX after a new exhaust but before supercharging:
I was thinking about trading mine for an 800 Backcountry but after swapping sleds with my buddy for the day (800R Gade) I changed my mine. It was light and had decent top end but it definitely didn't have the torquey "punchy" feel that the Yamaha has. In fact after ridding my sled for the day my bud said it was "like riding a crotch rocket" Also it is 100% accurate when people say the Nytro wants to be ridden HARD. The more I push it the better it rides. It's not a sit down cruiser like the Vector. You want to get your feet underneath you, get in an athletic position, and RIDE the sled!
If you are running stock skis you will probably want to change those. They are the worst part about the Yamahas. There is a ton of info on TY. I highly recommend perusing here:
12-10-2011, 11:07 AM
Wow I just saw how old this thread is. lol
12-10-2011, 08:02 PM
52 d___ KIDS
12-11-2011, 02:52 PM
Ya, It,s nice to be rembered though. My sled now has 3,888 miles on it. I had the sub frame replaced under warranty this summer. I bought the wife a 1200 TNT last year, so now we're an all 4 stroke family
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