New wood stove installed. Before and after pics

[gator800r]

Went up to my cabin and installed my new wood stove. Looking forward to coming home to a nice fire after a long day of boondocking. Also picked up a new TV since the wood stove went where the TV use to be.

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[rp7x]

be careful looks awful close

[yamahachick]

Looks great! Nice work.

[yamaholic]

Nice job looks good.

[ezra]

dont forget to file for your fed energy rebate

[landoman]

I thought of doing the same thing with a pellet stove but the cost has been pushing me away...

I did have a wood stove similar to that one that i purchased but then soon realized that i did not want to start poking holes in my brand new roof. Bad planning on my part during construction......

[radsrh]

landoman I did not want to poke a hole in my new roof either, but I did and in the end I would do it again. I have a small wood stove and even with the air all the way down I still have had to open a window to keep from cooking ;) Best thing I ever did was put the stove in.

[mccaleb]

Gator, I have the same stove at my house. Love it! Wood heat is the best. Keep a eye on your TV, the heat from the stove may overheat the LCD and become a little fuzzy.(happened to a buddy) Also if you used double wall pipe from stove to ceiling the heat gage won't be accurate. Good year to due the install with the fed rebates.

[lenny]

no reason to wast money on double wall out of the stove. Keep that single wall to get the most radiant heat off the pipe also. Does your stove have a heat shield on the back, probably does since you are fairly close to the walls with the unit. Mine does and the spec I believe was 14" to combustibles. But keep in mind the specs since you have unit at a 45 degree where sides do produce heavy heat

looks nice, I am sure you will enjoy the comfort, gets no better than wood heat

[radsrh]

lenny why no double wall out of the stove? I did use it because the specs called for it because of the distance to the wall

[gator800r]

The stove is the Lopi Answer stove and it is close to the wall but that is why I went with this stove it is a low clearance stove and It only calls for 10" from the cornerwall to the stove. I have almost 12" so it is within spec.

Lenny--- That was my thinking why spend 3x as much on double wall and lose all that radiant heat. Didnt make sence to me either. The stove does have a heat shield I believe thats how they can get the clearances so low, It is mobile home safe and had some of the lowest clearance of the stoves I was looking at. It would have only needed 7 1/2" if I used double wall.

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Mccaleb----- I was wondering if heat was going to be a issue with the TV but I really didnt have any other place to put it hopefully it last but only time will tell.

[lenny]

radsrh, your probably are referring to a rear exit stove. For Gators application, his stove pipe exits on top of the unit making the rear of the stove itself closest to combustibles. Since his stove is closer to combustibles than his stove pipe, he can run a single wall stove pipe right out of the unit and allow all the heat to be utilized in the exterior of the cabin instead of sending out the cabin. With that in mind, he appears to have converted as he entered into the ceiling mounted box you can see in the pic. That particular component has it&#39;s own built-in setbacks to combustables in it&#39;s design. There probably is a flange at the bottom of that box that adapts his entering single wall to double or triple wall while passing through the ceiling, attic, roof structure.

On a rear exit stove, the stove pipe is closest to the wall, more so than the stove it self so that is the first set back that has to be satisfied hence the need for double or triple wall. There is absolutely no need to run a double wall pipe on a stove that exits on top, you loose the radiant heat of the pipe and the cost is like 5 times more. At some point you will need to transfer over to a different pipe to pass through ceilings as setback to combustables HAS to be followed.

All these setbacks are for safety. If you had a freestanding unit in the middle of a room and therefor far far away from combustables you could run a single wall pipe on a rear exit unit and enjoy all the heat from the stove and the pipe.


Here is my application.
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I have single wall out of the top of the stove, even the elbow is single wall. The fat horizontal pipe is class A triple wall. That is required passing through the wall cavity where combustibles are an issue. There is a small adapter piece that allows me to convert from single wall to triple wall. It is an added cost for that part but still much cheaper than double wall all the way and I still get more heat radiating through single wall.

[lenny]

Basically if the stove has a built in heat shield and the stove is within setback specs, in most cases the vertical stove pipe will be far enough from combustibles to run single wall but don&#39;t take my word. Specs are the rule to follow

[radsrh]

lenny I have a Drolet stove top exit, the specs with the stove said 15&#34; with single wall pipe to the back of the stove and 6&#34; with double wall pipe. The side and front stayed the same for either pipe, the stove does have heat shields on but the pipe exit is right at the back of the stove on top. I guess it was money well spent? to go with the double wall because it is a new full log cabin and the last thing I need to do is burn it down, but I also hate to think I spent way to much on pipe for the install.

[lenny]

wow, that&#39;s a big variation. It seems unbelievable you could put the stove only 6&#34; away regardless of the pipe being used.

Your better safe than sorry. Guess I learn something new every day. Is you Drolet a jacketed unit, you know what I mean? a unit with a outer metal jacket, kinda like a double wall stove pipe?

Bottom line, each manufacturer has different specs for the stove and pipe. These cast iron, air tight units do get hot, real hot, some have heat shields and some don&#39;t. You can never be too careful with stoves

[radsrh]

Yes it is a jacketed mobile home safe unit. I have the back of the stove about 8-10&#34; off of the peak of the logs &#40;would have to double check when I go back up&#41; and the blower is just off of the logs. They sell a mag stove thermometer that you drill a 1/4&#34; hole in the pipe and it gives you a direct flew temp. Very nice unit with the new full log construction I have to have a window open with the stove all the way down just to be able to breath because of the temp in the cabin. One other nice feature is the direct outside air intake for the firebox.

[mccaleb]

Stay with the double wall, yes you loose a little heat but safety first. I have the same stove and was required to use double wall and use a outside air intake through the bottom of the stove. I just built the house 3 yrs ago and was required by inspector for&#34; make up air&#34;. The stove cranks! I&#39;ll have to get me one of those temp gauge that drill thru the first layer of pipe. FYI, contact your insurance agent incase anything happens. They will say the policy is void even if you had a leaky pipe and you never claimed the wood stove.
I don&#39;t mean to alarm you. Enjoy that wood heat!

[skidoolis]

There is nothing like wood heat fells great sorry not to derail thread too bad but does anyone know when feds rebates end i am wanting to install a furnace in the house thanks returning back to thread thanks Greg

[landoman]

Just make sure you are getting these inspected pretty regularly. My cousins 3 year old home burned to teh ground due to a double wall pipe that cracked and started the trusses on the house on fire. Fire inspector said the pipe acts sorta like a burn barrel. You keep heating and cooling and it weakens the pipe until it fails. This was a fireplace insert....

You can see in the first picture the breach in the pipe and the second one shows the fire was mainly above the drywall on the cieling which made the roof cave in. Total loss.

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[gator800r]

Mccaleb---- I had the insurance company over and added the wood stove to the insurance policy. They also took pictures of the stove installed so I should be good. How do you like the stove? I was told the glass stays pretty clean on this stove is this true? Any other tips or advice that you could give me about the stove. It took me all weekend to get the stove in so I didnt even get a chance to light a fire yet.

[samc]

Wow, what a mess - the fire. We just switch insurance carriers and they asked a lot of questions about our wood burner at our cabin.

[kevisip]

That house could of used a halon or sprinkler system. bummer.

[fusion]

My only concern is this, and it isn&#39;t just from me, but the builder, the wood burners put out alot of unseen pollutants and soot to the air. Before you know it, your cabin walls and furniture are stained. You did it right by not connecting to heat vents. I am looking at doing the same thing, but will put the wood burner on the lower level and vent out the concrete block of exposed basement. No connection to furnace ductwork, I&#39;m hoping for heat rise to warm the entire 2200 sq. ft. from bottom up. I sure have enough wood with all the birch dying with drought conditions around south central Vilas Cty.

[mccaleb]

Gator, Love my stove, had the smaller one at another cabin then went to a top loader Vermont Castings on my other cabin then went with the Lopi Answer on this one. I have the
catalyst one&#40;lever on right&#41; leave it open to start then close off within 5 minutes. I think the catalyst one burns excess gases but also flue needs to be cleaned at least once during winter due to lower flue temps. I can heat my house up with no problem. Love standing in front of stove to warm up after coming in from outside.&#40;even find myself standing there in summer when no fire exist&#41; Just don&#39;t overload it until you get a feel for what it is capable of. Wood type and dryness matters.
Enjoy!