View Full Version : Crashedtoys.com prices?
10-07-2009, 04:25 PM
does anyone know what auctions typically close for? im thinking of signing up but i dont want to waste 200 bucks if the toys arent gonna be that cheap.
how about an example for a sled?
10-07-2009, 04:46 PM
I have always thought the prices are too high for damaged items on any site. I always felt if I could not sell something, crash it and it would sell. You can monitor prices on Crashedtoys to see if you agree.
I tried, they always up the prices just before the closing bell. I never did buy anything as prices were close to wholesale with no damages. you are always taking a chance when something is crashed ,just my .02worth
10-07-2009, 04:55 PM
im was just thinking about buying and parting out... would that be worth it?
10-07-2009, 05:01 PM
crashedtoys is right by my house I have tryed many time over the years to buy stuff from them but it goes for big bucks...few deals hear and ther from there tho
if you find something your interested in let me know i stop in ther alot so i could look it over for ya
From what ive seen from looking at the sleds and Harleys they sell....you could buy a running bike or sled for darn near what they get for a wrecked one. Not sure who they are selling to because I know quite few guys who are parts sellers and wont touch their stuff. Just my opinion.
10-08-2009, 05:46 AM
I am not trying to plug this place but i heard they are reasonable in prices good luck http://www.snowmobileauction.com/price_reports/aug.htm
10-08-2009, 07:43 AM
I beleive John got his first ATV from Crashedtoys. I don't have any personal knowledge of their pricing though.
10-08-2009, 08:05 AM
I was just at the white star auction(snowmobileauction) on Oct. 3rd and stuff was going cheap! I was there to sell so wasn't too happy about driving 600 miles to get there. However they guys working the auction said that November is usually alot busier and brings more buyers and sellers so the price usually goes up a little. Starting this month the seller is charged a 10% fee on top of there bid so that maybe helping keep the bids lower also.
10-08-2009, 08:38 AM
That's not going to keep the bids lower, that just makes crashedtoys an extra 10%!! What a rip.
10-08-2009, 09:01 AM
Edit: Opps question made little sense once I read it after I posted it.
10-08-2009, 09:22 AM
Chad been looking and dealing there for years. YOU MUST KNOW YOUR CRAP!!! usually sleds that end up there have something wrong,and a lot are last years rentals also. And yea good prices, (for the buyer) Nov goes up a little all the way till March. Usually Feb and March are the times to sell. The 10% thing just started, on the other side of it the seller only pays a flat $25 if item sells over $100 so the seller doesn't pay the comission. They gotta make there money also. (Not plugging them here) just take a compresion gauge with you and know what you are looking at and go early. I have bought probably 5 sleds there over the years. Sold almost everone I have ever sold there. (when I am done with a sled it looks great if not new but always has upwards of 10,000++ miles on it) so it is hard to sell that at home. By the way are you Jerry's friend from J & J??
10-08-2009, 09:49 AM
I dont want to offend anyone here and that know your crap comment was not directed at you chad. It is just so many times I have seen a guy that buys a year old sled for $2000-$3000 less then you can find anywhere else and then complains when he gets it home that the motor is blown..crank is gone...tunnel is tweeked and so on and so on. As I said those sleds are there for a reason. Some times it is cases like mine where I just don't want to deal with trying to sell it from home. I assume cases like you are a lot of rentals that need to go away. As long as you know what you are looking for and how much it cost to fix or replace you can walk away with some good deals there. it is an auction, don't forget that.
try www.crankyape.com (http://www.crankyape.com)
10-09-2009, 08:49 AM
Well aware of what an auction is as I've grown up at them. Was just a bit disappointed that the folks I spoke with gave all kinds of advice on Saturday after things didn't sell rather than giving it on the phone Thursday before I drove 600 miles to get there. I'm not bad mouthing them by any means, I may try it again in November if I have alot of used stuff. I'm also aware theres alot of hi mile rental sleds get brought there but my stuff was all trade in's that were for the most part pretty clean nicely equipped sleds. And all there workers in the yard were very nice guys, they run a nice AND QUICK show.
Are you talking about J&J Sales? In Ohio I think? I've talked with them a couple times and did some trading last winter.
Times are tough in the old Northwoods,lots of stay at home bargains if you have $CASH$ !! Better off knowing the history of the sled or if it sat half sumerged in a swail since march without fuel conditioner in it! Auctions can be good deal if you know what to look for and know the market.Lots of NO-NAME Dealers buy there and sell there!Snowing as I post!!
10-09-2009, 09:31 AM
Chad, no the guy I am refering to is from Stevensivlle MI. He has a buddy that runs a rental/ snowmobile sales somewhere on the west side of the upper. I never really asked him who or where. I just know he brings his stuff to the auction to get rid of it before his new comes in. When you said about being from there I thought it was you.
10-09-2009, 10:04 AM
I am confused on the 10% thing at Whitestar.
Here is what thier website says about thier fees.
"You can sell your items---absolutely NO SELLING COMMISSION FEES
on items selling for over $100.00. You only pay a $25.00 entry fee per item. That's it !!
On items selling for under $100.00, we do not charge the entry fee
and you only pay a 20% selling commission fee."
10-09-2009, 11:16 AM
The 10% is buyers premium. The buyer pays the commission not the seller, unless it is under $100 and then both pay a commission. I.e. sled sells for $2500. Seller pays $25 buyer pays $2750 plus Michigan sales tax. Need to know exactly what you want to spend and adjust your bid accordingly. On the other hand take a helmet. is sells for $20. Seller pays $2 buyer pays $21 plus Michigan sales tax.
10-09-2009, 11:48 AM
I don't go to auctions any more that have started charging a % to purchase something. The seller has no way of getting what his unit is worth if the buyer has to pay 10%. (i.e. $5000 sled=$500 buyers fee not including sales tax and reg. on top of that)
10-09-2009, 12:04 PM
Yea I see your point but what is the difference if that $5000 sled sells for $4500 and that is what the seller gets (and the buyer pays $4950)or the seller pays the commision and the sled sells for $5000 and the seller still gets $4500. They still get there commision. I as a buyer don't like buyers premiums either but as long as you don't spend more then you intend to and adjust your price it all works out. As far as the sales tax at all michigan auctions if there is a registration there is sales tax. Cars, bikes, toys, trailers....
10-09-2009, 12:16 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong as you've been going there for a while. But when the seller was paying the fee's there was a $300 cap and now that the fee's have gone to the buyer there is no longer a cap. Had I noticed this I would not have brought a sled down with a $9,000 reserve. On the cheaper units it probably will not be affected but I dont think you'll be seeing much late model clean stuff going through and selling.
10-09-2009, 12:48 PM
Is the sales tax applied to the sled price + the 10%? If so, it will generate more state sales tax revenue, paid by the buyer, whereas if the 10% is paid as a commission to the auction house,by the seller, no sales tax is realized on the commission, correct?
CHAD, do you have these sleds listed for sale on the net?
10-09-2009, 01:30 PM
Last December I went to the auction intending on a buying a sled. I assumed that there would be deals to be had at the auction - after all, if you couldn't get a deal, why take a chance on a sled that you only get a chance to look over for 15 minutes or so? But it seemed like prices were high. There weren't that many sleds for sale, and the audience was standing room only, so it probably was a seller's market (which surprised me, given the economy). I didn't end up buying anything.
10-09-2009, 01:30 PM
No I do not have my inventory on the are website but it is something were working on. I would imagine that you only pay tax on your bid amount as the 10% is a commision.
10-09-2009, 01:33 PM
10-09-2009, 03:54 PM
I forgot all about the $300 cap. It was last year when I sold my last sled there. And if I ever got $3000 for one of the ones I take there I would be really happy anyways!! Everytime I have ever been there it has been standing room only. Usually the one with the most sleds (at least in the newer auction ring) are the Jan, feb march auctions. Don't have any idea on if you pay tax on the comission or not. Good question though.
My son purchased a sled there last year for parts and did get a good deal on the sled until he had to Pay an extra 180.00 for handeling and misc. stuff. He was aware of that but didnt relize that it was a % of the sale,still made out allright. Past experience with crashed toys is that if it is anything really good you might as well forget it, too many salvage dealers that are willing to overpay. The best thing to do is to be in their office for the last few minutes of the auction,that will give you a leg up on the bidding compitition. Also they have in the past had items you can buy outright usually are not advertised but doesnt hurt to ask.
10-12-2009, 12:14 PM
Try Toysalvage or Recreational Salvage.com
10-28-2009, 09:28 AM
Yes you do pay sales tax on the buyers premium- this is straight off there web site.
BY MICHIGAN STATE LAW:
6% Michigan sales tax is charged on ALL purchases (including the buyer's premium) from all buyers unless you have A COPY of your business sales tax license with you. No exceptions! Bring a copy of your license as we must have a copy of your tax license on file here.
10-28-2009, 07:56 PM
well salvaged toys just stopped at my place today. my insurance company uses them. I could have bought it back for $600...so you have to wonder what they will get for it.
If you see it out there, it is a 2001 Ac Z440 green. mild BENT chassis :D
10-28-2009, 10:53 PM
600.00 is a pretty high buy back for a 8-9 year old 440. Whats a non-wrecked one worth 1500? Im sure it will bring close to that at auction.
It wasnt all that many years ago you could buy back 700-800cc current year sleds for around a 1,000. then the auction sites were born and that number went to 3-4,000. It sure didnt make our insurance premiums any cheaper. Must be too many sleds getting "totaled" these days.
10-29-2009, 09:10 AM
it's got to be. Insurance told me my seld was worth, not get this.... $2500.
they said it was based on market prices...what?<font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font>? I was hoping to get $1000 for it, really.
10-31-2009, 11:50 AM
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