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wi_sledneck
10-09-2009, 06:09 PM
some one want to fill me in on why he won it? i think its a load of pure crap

bkboats
10-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Yeah I dont get that one either...

ezra
10-09-2009, 06:40 PM
ask Arafat or Gore or Carter.now that is a group I would want to be part of. NOT I would not walk accross the street to talk with any of those men.but to your question I would have to say for making America look week and for being the candy <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font> apolojetic wishy washy so caled leader the the worlds radicals want him to be.maby now he and carter can travel the world blaming america.it is the next step in the campane to run the UN is it not?ok now I need to find my blood presure pills that I bought with my money from my medical savings acount

catcrazy
10-09-2009, 06:45 PM
I am confident now that the Nobel Piece Prize means absolutly nothing! I feel sorry for some of the past winners because Obama has officially cheapened the award!

gary_in_neenah
10-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Unlike OBAMA....I am Speechless

and I&#39;d be surprised if this Thread makes it through the night.

The Mods must be in shock too!

vx700xtc
10-09-2009, 11:39 PM
If I am not mistaken, Hitler also won that &#40; prize&#41;

Firecatguy
10-10-2009, 12:12 AM
worthless award now!!!

I was shocked when Big Al Gore..now???

catlady
10-10-2009, 12:15 AM
Why? One word... Lemmings...

dcsnomo
10-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Hmmm...no Hitler here...

2009 - Barack Obama
2008 - Martti Ahtisaari
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2000 - Kim Dae-jung
1999 - Médecins Sans Frontičres
1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces
1987 - Oscar Arias Sánchez
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1985 - International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
1984 - Desmond Tutu
1983 - Lech Walesa
1982 - Alva Myrdal, Alfonso García Robles
1981 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
1979 - Mother Teresa
1978 - Anwar al-Sadat, Menachem Begin
1977 - Amnesty International
1976 - Betty Williams, Mairead Corrigan
1975 - Andrei Sakharov
1974 - Seán MacBride, Eisaku Sato
1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
1972 - The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund
1971 - Willy Brandt
1970 - Norman Borlaug
1969 - International Labour Organization
1968 - René Cassin
1967 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1966 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1965 - United Nations Children&#39;s Fund
1964 - Martin Luther King Jr.
1963 - International Committee of the Red Cross, League of Red Cross Societies
1962 - Linus Pauling
1961 - Dag Hammarskjöld
1960 - Albert Lutuli
1959 - Philip Noel-Baker
1958 - Georges Pire
1957 - Lester Bowles Pearson
1956 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1955 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1954 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1953 - George C. Marshall
1952 - Albert Schweitzer
1951 - Léon Jouhaux
1950 - Ralph Bunche
1949 - Lord Boyd Orr
1948 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1947 - Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
1946 - Emily Greene Balch, John R. Mott
1945 - Cordell Hull
1944 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1943 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1942 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1941 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1940 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1939 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1938 - Nansen International Office for Refugees
1937 - Robert Cecil
1936 - Carlos Saavedra Lamas
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky
1934 - Arthur Henderson
1933 - Sir Norman Angell
1932 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1931 - Jane Addams, Nicholas Murray Butler
1930 - Nathan Söderblom
1929 - Frank B. Kellogg
1928 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1927 - Ferdinand Buisson, Ludwig Quidde
1926 - Aristide Briand, Gustav Stresemann
1925 - Sir Austen Chamberlain, Charles G. Dawes
1924 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1923 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1922 - Fridtjof Nansen
1921 - Hjalmar Branting, Christian Lange
1920 - Léon Bourgeois
1919 - Woodrow Wilson
1918 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1917 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1916 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1915 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1914 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1913 - Henri La Fontaine
1912 - Elihu Root
1911 - Tobias Asser, Alfred Fried
1910 - Permanent International Peace Bureau
1909 - Auguste Beernaert, Paul Henri d&#39;Estournelles de Constant
1908 - Klas Pontus Arnoldson, Fredrik Bajer
1907 - Ernesto Teodoro Moneta, Louis Renault
1906 - Theodore Roosevelt
1905 - Bertha von Suttner
1904 - Institute of International Law
1903 - Randal Cremer
1902 - Élie Ducommun, Albert Gobat
1901 - Henry Dunant, Frédéric Passy

einne
10-10-2009, 11:11 AM
political peace prize

sunchyme
10-10-2009, 01:29 PM
I could care a less about this, but what i&#39;m
loving is how the righty folks are getting so
worked up. Hannity, Beck, Coulter haha

jimjones
10-10-2009, 03:02 PM
Hitler, Stalin, and Marx where nominated. But this is such a silly prize anyways. Almost all who win are on the left side of the spectrum.

Just ignore this back-patting award. Its kinda like the hollywood emmys.

But is it true that Obama is going to give his money away to charity? If he does, that would follow in his belief that the redistrubution of ill-gotten gains lie with those who diserve it the least.

imo....

keweenawboy
10-10-2009, 05:29 PM
He should use it to pay us taxpayers back for his worthless trip to get the olympics in chicago. Oh I forgot maybe his pal okrah paid. lol

carole
10-10-2009, 06:14 PM
&#34;okrah???? FrNash where are you?????

lenny
10-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Gary, as long as the thread stays civil, probably will last, I give the mods a lot of credit for what&#39;s involved to maintain a discussion board. Thanks guy&#39;s!

As far as B.H.O., I&#39;m not impressed at anything he has done so far, I think all the spending and possible tax increases, possible fines for no-ins is a problem. No award there from me! I give him credit for being busy and trying to get stuff done but I see nothing positive so far. Washington is divided beyond belief and so is the country, we have big problems, kinda scary in a sense.

kevisip
10-10-2009, 08:18 PM
Come on guys..just give him a chance. He not done yet ruining Amerika. Geeeez.

rakins800
10-10-2009, 10:40 PM
I kinda like the guy,and the job he&#39;s done so far. my.02

06attak
10-11-2009, 04:27 AM
http://www.johndee.com/discuss/messages/58069/116385.jpg

lenny
10-11-2009, 09:43 AM
honestly, I would much rather have GW back than BHO is place right now

miaferominka
10-11-2009, 10:15 AM
BHO needs to learn ACTIONS speak louder than words

sunchyme
10-11-2009, 01:15 PM
Reality is: it sucks to be the US President, no matter who you are or what party your affiliated with. Its a thankless job with a long line of bashers who think they can do better.

lenny
10-11-2009, 02:26 PM
bashers? that speaks a lot from a certain perspective

Let me give you a perspective that is real, a real experience. I am 45 and lived in Illinois 42 years of my life. I worked hard as a young adult and made good money, so to speak. I got married, had children, owned my own business, had 2 nice vehicles and a nice house. I built 2 more houses and sold them giving me a great return &#40;2 good business choises.&#41; Regardless of my income, my spending was relative to my income, it&#39;s the American dream. I realized I was a man who owned nothing. Sure I had assets but the big item&#39;s like house and 35k vehicles, I had notes on them just as much of America does. Remember, it&#39;s the &#34;american dream.&#34; I did finally get tired of doing well with nothing to show, it is a ridiculous cycle this american dream is. Borrow borrow borrow is BS and NOBODY should be enslaved to their finances. I got fed up and cashed out and moved to the UP where you can get a lot for your money. I bought a 50k house which I own, I own a 2001 Chrysler Town &amp; Country with 188k miles, but I own it. I have very little debt, a small line of credit I used to build a cabin. Here&#39;s my point, cash for clunkers motivates people to spend and with the majority of the people in this country in the middle and low class we spend. Just as the sub prime mortgage rates which is mainly responsible for the economic housing crunch we are in right now, cash for clunkers is the same mindset. Sub prime mortgage lending motivated people to live beyond their means, and trading in a vehicle and getting 4500 for it motivates us to get into another vehicle that we may not possible afford.

BHO has the mindset to get the US out of debt by SPENDING. Sure there are people who do indeed need help and I support programs for the less fortunate but to bail people out of bad decisions? I sold the last house because I was scared to death I was going to default and I got lucky to sell 2 years ago. I put the house on the market for 499,000 and sold in 9 days for 492,000. I was in the right place at the right time. If I didn&#39;t find a buyer what would have happened? I&#39;ll tell ya, I would have foreclosed and it would have been a bad business decision and nobody&#39;s fault except my own.

This is my real life story and nobody can say I wasn&#39;t responsible for the debt I racked up, it&#39;s the norm. 85-90% of us do this very thing and many have had hard times. I am not saying I have a good plan to get us out but I do know how to prevent this from happening again in my life. I just sold my 01 ford excursion for 4700 and bought the Town and country for 2025. The 2675 is a huge amount of money to me these days. This money is going to help me through the winter when my construction work comes to a near hault.

As a nation, we all need to examine out debt to income ratio and not let the banks tell us what is a comfortable debt to income ratio. Borrowing in of itself is a risk, circumstances can put us into a bad situation and default is not far away. Why not live within our means and borrow less. The American dream machine is out of control and Washington continues to spend and bail out people for poor decisions and encourages them to do it again with BS programs. Money is the root of all evil and we are experiencing the result of nationwide greed.

Like it or not, this is my real life experience, not a hunch. I am sure I am not correct in all my points but at least I am not guessing. I applied cause and effect and came to a conclusion, took action and bailed myself out. I&#39;d have it no other way.

kevisip
10-11-2009, 04:59 PM
Just heard Brent Farv was nominated the Noble Piece prize!! This is great news!

dcsnomo
10-11-2009, 07:59 PM
kevsip-
Nah, that was the Novel Putz Prize

Hoosier
10-11-2009, 09:09 PM
I heard that Barack is supposed to win the Cy Young this year for his pitch at the allstar game.

mulchatna
10-12-2009, 11:17 AM
Didn&#39;t he already win an Academy Award for his role in the, much talked about, &#34;Presidential Election 08?&#34;

ezra
10-12-2009, 11:35 AM
he was going to win but the academy thought he used to many aaah aaah mmmm aahhh in his eloquent spech reading.

mezz
10-12-2009, 05:41 PM
I&#39;m not too sure, but, I think it&#39;s because of his elequent speaking &amp; his ability to read a teleprompter. Beyond that, he has not proven anything to any of us, nor has he had the time to. I guess he is in good company with Al Gore!? God help us.-Mezz

propjockey
10-12-2009, 08:33 PM
Ummmm.....Sooooo...HOW BOUT&#39; THEM CUBBIES! http://www.johndee.com/discuss/clipart/happy.gif

-J-

kevisip
10-12-2009, 08:40 PM
Cubbies..hmmmm..They are bankrupt! They will file for chapter 13 protection, resettled their debts, then change there name to the SCRUBBIES!

chords
10-13-2009, 02:35 AM
Nomination deadline for this prize was Feb 1. So this was awarded based on 2 weeks as President and future expectations. Not past accomplishments.
Strange.

booondocker
10-13-2009, 09:57 AM
dcsnomo:

Nice bit of research there fella...NASH would be proud of you.

Fact is the people involved in voting for the peace prize, which btw, is funded from a pot of dough that was set aside from a guy who invented dynamite or gun powder, I forget which, and who made huge amounts of money during war times because his invention killed people. No doubt NASH will get &#34;the rest of the story&#34; out here.

They are ordinary people who have axes to grind and who lean politically in every direction.

AM I THE ONLYEST ONE TO NOTICE THAT THIS PRIZE WAS AWARDED, RIGHT WHEN THE PREZ IS ABOUT TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO SEND MORE TROOPS TO AFRANDASTAND??

Maybe they should call this prize committee, a steering committee???

Lenny....nice story! I have seen guys with brand spanking new excursions, hooked to brand new 40 foot trailers rolling down the highway on I-75 and I think to myself that if this guy bought a small trailer and used pickup, he could bank all the money he spent and RETIRE 20 years sooner. I just KNOW, the guy is rolling down the road, thinking of how to make that next payment taking the edge off of owning all that equipment including insurance to cover that equipment and warranties to cover breakdowns, and I roll buy and look at the poor fella and feel real sorry for him.

But as Lenny says, it&#39;s the American way.

Just like the Cubs, you go belly up, dispose of your expenses in one day, and start up business the next day as if nothing happened.

So you have to ask yourself &#34;...do you feel lucky punk...&#34; oops, &#40;that&#39;s another story line&#41;...I mean, &#34;what&#39;s wrong with this picture...???&#34; Going belly up means that someone took a hit...always!! Is it morally correct...or doesn&#39;t that matter anymore??

Lenny, did you ever think that maybe YOU did it wrong and you should have kept working the system until you got a nice pot of money and then you, yourself might have pulled a &#34;Chicago cubs turn-around&#34;???

lenny
10-13-2009, 10:14 AM
boondocker, nope, I do not see that as an option. Maybe it is legal in a sense but I am responsible for the debt I rack up so I should pay it back, plain and simple.

I do have a close friend that has built 7 houses and renovated another 3 homes. He always did fairly well on them till the last one. He didn&#39;t figure the cost of the house initially and ran out of money. He borrowed against his personal home and ran all the equity out. Now he is foreclosing on both. He found a old farm house to rent. He agrees HIS plans didn&#39;t work out. Borrowing money is a risk, you may not be able to pay it back, that&#39;s what we need to keep in mind here and right now our country is racking up the biggest debt in history. I hope it works but I highly doubt it, seems to be backwards to me. I think we should have rode it out.

off to work now!

swanee
10-13-2009, 10:38 AM
lenny, its great to know that there are guys like you still out there. Boondocker you are so spot on with your observations. These same people also bought the McMansions that they can no longer afford. We have friends that were seduced by &#34;credit&#34; and are hurting now. My wife and I are still in our first house we built back in &#39;99. We had been tempted many times to upgrade however common sense always over ruled.

Agree that the Nobel prize means nothing.

Hoosier
10-13-2009, 11:12 AM
Lenny...great story, really makes one think. We have two cars with notes &#40;one purchased with cash for clunkers&#41; and sometimes I think we&#39;re crazy for doing so.

One correction though: it&#39;s the LOVE of money that&#39;s the root of all evil.

catdog
10-13-2009, 01:04 PM
I believe the saying is, greed is the root of all evil

kevisip
10-13-2009, 01:31 PM
CATDOG, it is good not to confuse the two. Each one had a different outcome!! Amen!

dcsnomo
10-13-2009, 03:55 PM
boondocker-
Alfred Bernhard Nobel &#40;Stockholm, Sweden, 21 October 1833 – Sanremo, Italy, 10 December 1896&#41; was a Swedish chemist, engineer, innovator, armaments manufacturer and the inventor of dynamite. He owned Bofors, a major armaments manufacturer, which he had redirected from its previous role as an iron and steel mill. In his last will, he used his enormous fortune to institute the Nobel Prizes.

booondocker
10-13-2009, 04:16 PM
Yeah, I remembered about 10% of that anyway. I knew they guy was trying to get into heavan after living the high life building and selling bombs.

I think we can alla agree that he might have left a legacy of money but he didn&#39;t put enough safeguards in WHO would be doing the deciding when he was gone. Means nothing but money now.

freezinbevr
10-13-2009, 07:53 PM
Lenny,

Congrats on getting out with your shirt still on!

We have looked at upgrading our home and we are still in the first house we bought w/plans to pay it off in the near future. We don&#39;t take elaborate trips,own a cabin, or anything else we can&#39;t buy w/cash. Live within your means! Interesting concept.

I&#39;m in the construction industry and have seen many come and go w/promises of fortune over the last 20&#43; years. It doesn&#39;t happen without a plan to get debt free &#40;Denny Hecker&#41;. Paper money is not cash in the bank, assetts are only worth what someone is willing to pay.

Congrats again on your move to simplify life, I&#39;ve always done the same &#40;must be ny farm upbringing&#41;

BTW- Lenny, I would be very interested in your guiding for the powder haunts by Greenland. I&#39;ll give ya a call offline.

lenny
10-13-2009, 09:18 PM
The bad thing is that most of us are brought up to think this is a normal way of life. It&#39;s tough because very good, honest people are in the same boat. I don&#39;t think people are dumb or anything else like that because they finance a lot. It really is normal. An easy way out of the mess is to look at all the debt. Add up the mortgage, cars, credit cards, personal loans, line of credit. Mine would have scared anybody, I owed 385,000 dollars, Holy fright, that scares me just typing it. I now use debit cards, if I cannot buy it outright, I don&#39;t get it. Honestly, one person by person is how we are gonna get out of this mess. Give it a try people and see how your future outlook can improve when a plan is implemented. Right now I am saving a few buck here and there because my truck is gonna need tires soon, that&#39;s 400 bucks, quite a bit of cash really. If I had a credit card I could easily charge the tires, charge gas a few times, grab dinner for the family on the way home, do that for a few weeks and whala, there&#39;s a grand real easy. Scary, ain&#39;t it?

lvr1000
10-13-2009, 09:45 PM
I heard Obama was getting the Heisman Trophy for watching two quarters of college football.

kevisip
10-14-2009, 12:09 AM
LVR1000, not exactly true..however, they now have give the Heisman Trophy to all football players, even the blind ones!!

Yea..trophys for everyone!!

ezra
10-14-2009, 12:58 AM
I have a nerf can I get a heisman?better yet I have a car how about a nextel cup.I have a house how about the builders choice.a sled x games snow x gold.a utube video a oscar.a small biz how about biz man of the year?