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fastercat
10-21-2009, 01:34 PM
last year at this time someone started a thread like this, here is me, Project manager for one of the largest family home builders in mn, layed off Dec 31st 2007, i only know construction and i have over 27 years in the field and right now i cant even get a framing job for $10 hr, i have had more people tell me they dont want someone like me with all that experience, cause like one guy said, i dont want to hire you and then start telling me what to do cause i have been in the bus. longer than he's been alive,but my spirits are high and i will still ride my sled when it snows, i just might not be staying at hotels, but maybe out of town friends instead, lets hear from everyone thats in the same boat.

skibob
10-21-2009, 02:02 PM
Fastercat,
That stinks, prayers up for something to come along.
I'm not quite in the same boat, but times are tough, wife lost her job & now only works part time. Had to sell both sleds just to make ends meet, so I won't be sledding at all for the forseable future http://www.johndee.com/discuss/clipart/sad.gif

elf
10-21-2009, 02:03 PM
Man, I came in a Libretarion. that scares me!

elf
10-21-2009, 02:03 PM
Oops, somehow I posted to the wrong post.

snowangel03
10-21-2009, 05:27 PM
My husband and I have been very blessed because neither of us has lost our jobs. Both our jobs suck worse than they ever have before, but we keep reminding ourselves at least we have jobs.

However, we have so many friends and family that this economy has hurt. Some have done pretty well and others have not.

One of our friends was a warehouse mgr for one company for a very long time and he got laid off. His wife, who works for the same company was an engineer and she got a demotion and a pretty sizeable cut in her pay. He ended up finding a job almost a year later as a driver's helper for Pepsi.

We have one friend that next month is her last month in her house due to foreclosure. Luckily another friend is prepared to take her in if needed.

It's not good out there. I even have a friend that is now in treatment for depression. She just started letting everything get to her. Her job, her life around her, and the state of our economy; it all seemed to be sucking the life out of her. She's doing a little better now.

Okay now that I've gotten everyone depressed...

I guess all we can do is keep hoping and especially praying for things to get better for the people that this economy has hurt!!!

ezra
10-21-2009, 05:37 PM
faster cat go out and start working for your self I have been swamped this year.if you have been doing const for 27 yrs then I am sure you can fix or build anything handy man work is still very plentiful if you are right around 50 bucks and do the job fast and good you will be turning work away with in the year.this fall I already passed on a deck exterior paint job and a slab for a hot tub.the only person in life you can count on is your self.so forget about project management for a year or so and go make some money and life long client's.I am also shocked at the amount of guys who wont even come look at a job like the hot tub slab I did not have time so I called a concrete guy I use from time to time who was bitching about work last time I saw him.I told him I knew of a driveway and a 10x10 slab that needed to be done.well he gave me the well it is almost hunting season and the weather has been sporadic so I don't have time.WHAT THE FLUCK I said don't call me any more crying about work or ever again for work!

whitedust
10-21-2009, 06:26 PM
Well said ezra. I see a lot of that too. If you don't bid small jobs you may have no jobs.

fastercat
10-21-2009, 07:27 PM
i agree and yes i bid everything that comes around, but realize i cant afford the insurance that goes with the builders license and there is zero work up in the northern part of the metro area in mn and i found driving to woodbury to put a storm door on for $85 after gas and getting rid of the old door it was hardly worth my time, i am a go getter, i apply for framing jobs that pay $10 they dont even call me, ezra i see your in mound, do you need help? i know alittle about most everything in construction,let me know i am not one bit scared to work,i cant stand sitting at home, i am thankful my wifes job pays all the bills without breaking the bank

whitedust
10-21-2009, 08:03 PM
Don't over complicate things fastercat just start fixing stuff for people run a local newspaper ad. Always work for handyman a little cash here & there. KISS...Who knows among friends.... could bridge the tide.

rocky367
10-21-2009, 08:20 PM
Been laid off since April 1st of this year, enjoyed the summer spending time with the kids. But, now I need to do something, applied a few places and finally have an interview on Monday with one.
Have been spending my time working on making a manual for the SkyWarn group I'm in and creating a new map for the county I am in. Oh, and helping buddies out that need a hand with things, in return I got a hand rebuilding my sled trailer into something usable.

ranlam
10-21-2009, 08:56 PM
Get laid off in a couple of weeks, cant wait. I work road construction and this has been my routine for 12 years. Work your arse off in the summer, find something to do in winter-groom trails. I am thankful I have a job, many people are failing cause it is so slow.

ezra
10-21-2009, 09:09 PM
I know it is tough in the northern burbs.the #1 reason I moved to mound is to be where the money was.well at least close to it success is a neighborhood.dont have enough work to keep 1 more guy going right now we are knocking off handy man work for fall.will be starting some bigger projects in prob 30 days or so.witch buy the way are all from doing small jobs for people. almost every big job I get is from doing BS jobs for them .it may be 1 day or 5 yrs but do there small jobs and they will hire you no ? asked for the big remods.I also bitch to my self when I am doing some bs pulling off a job to do some $100 job when I could just go home and relax but I know where the small job lead.when we start some bigger jobs in late fall I will keep you in mind.ps F the builders lisense untill you have a job that you hae to pull paper for 90% of people do not want paper pulled on a job as soon as you tell them the tax asser will be knocking at the dore when you close the permit

srt20
10-21-2009, 09:21 PM
Im laid off. Wife makes plenty of money, and she isnt going to be getting laid off anytime soon. I wouldnt mind working til the snow flies, but Im not looking at all either.

dolph
10-22-2009, 09:27 AM
I was laid off June 6th of this year. since then I have been back to work 4 days. I to, work construction and it has really fallen off, even the occassional side job. My wife works in the medical receptionist field and thank god for that. Still plan on riding but maybe not the long trips this year.

yamalaris
10-22-2009, 09:56 AM
fastercat,

I had been waiting for years to improve my basement the fact that so many subcontractors need work the labor pricing came way down so I figured now is the time to do it. I actually found an excellent contractor via Craigslist he gave me references that I knew personally so when they told me he did good work I was confident in hiring him.

The contractor told me he used to work for a builder but they had no business so he decided to hang his own shingle and do whatever jobs were available, now this guy is very talented and did everything, roughed, concrete, electrical, drywall, finish work, tile work, he did everything with the exception of plumbing for the bathroom. He told me that he is now busier then ever.

I wish you well but it seems as though these types of home improvement projects might be the ticket to weather this difficult economy. You are very fortunate to have these skills; there are lots of middle management folks being forced to flip burgers because nothing else is available to them.

snoeatr
10-22-2009, 10:34 AM
I'm off for the long haul. Laid off from a big job in early Sept. Was there for 1 1\2 yrs. and finished up. I always do side work and that is much slower now too. Picked up a few small jobs this week, atleast its something. Had to lower my prices some to stay competative. Otherwise just doing projects around the house that I have put off for several years. Kinda enjoying it for now, but it hasn't been that long yet.

ash_lake_ryan
10-22-2009, 01:05 PM
I myself got laid off a few weeks ago as well. I knew it was coming but still sucks, the wife works at the same place and we will be lucky if she makes another month. The bad thing about that is then our Health Insurance is gone. I have finished up a lot of projects around home as well that I just have not had time to do. There is always a job to be done somewhere, it might not be what we like or the money we are used to but it is better than staring at the TV all day!

polarisrider1
10-22-2009, 09:27 PM
Why are these discussions always labeled "Who is Laid off"? Don't you mean who is out of work? Laid off is a Luxury compared to being "Out" of work. Laid off gets free money. Out of work gets none.

ezra
10-22-2009, 09:56 PM
this is true I have not had the luxury of having unemployment to fall back on for the better part of 20 yrs.but then I also have not had to deal with some bung hole boss for the same amount of time.

pfd_crew
10-22-2009, 10:29 PM
took a major pay cut, almost 50%, not a whole lot i can do, except keep showing up on time and try to keep off the choppin block.

ezra
10-22-2009, 11:33 PM
well I do know the teachers in my part of town all got a raise this year.must be because we have one of the highest $ per pupal with the lowest SET test score in the western burbs.cant deny money with performance like that.

bigvin
10-23-2009, 08:50 AM
<font color="0000ff">I&#39;ve been off for almost a year. The prospects look worse every day. If the wife didn&#39;t have a good job, would be forced to sell and Move.</font>

<font color="0000ff">Might have to go from being an engineer for 20plus years, . . . . . To: &#34;Welcome to Walmart! Have a Great Day!</font>

<font color="0000ff">So Many people are now running OUT of unemployment extensions, that it gives a false look at the unemployment percentages. Maybe if I move to China, I could not only make Walmarts products, but play Basketball also!</font>

<font color="0000ff">SIya Narra!</font>

2000sxr700
10-23-2009, 10:04 AM
I have been out of work since Feb.15 and I gotta say it SUCKS! been a plumber for twenty years and never been thru this before! I knew it was coming last october, just did&#39;nt know exactly when. Well here I am 8 mo. later and have burned thru my entire savings. Sledding this year? haha! it will probably be rides far and few between. It will probabaly be more around home than making trips to the great white nort eh! It has started to become depressing to me but not to the point where clinical attention is needed! the side jobs have even almost come to a halt and I used to consider myself the side job king. Side jobs is what pays for my extra curricular activities called snowmobiling and swilling beer. These times we live in are tough and I wish I could see the light at the end! If someone else can, shine it my way. To all of us out of work, good luck and God bless! Keep your chin up, this is not forever! nothing is forever.

polarisrider1
10-23-2009, 07:34 PM
2000, you must of worked for someone else it sounds. How is your boss doing? Owners of the companies do not get &#34;side jobs&#34;. all jobs are for the Company in some form. Side jobs are the jobs your employees do at night to take jobs away from the Company they work for. Then they wonder why they have no regular job anymore. Times are tough and most need to reinvent themselves. Getting out of a comfort zone is very tough. After all we all have &#40;think we have&#41; a status zone we must retain. Bad times are humbling for all.

2000sxr700
10-23-2009, 10:11 PM
polaris- you are right I do work for someone else. That someone else has been plumbing my fathers&#39; houses for forty years. My father is a general contractor here where I live. My employer let&#39;s the employees do side jobs because we usually have such a high volume of work, he doesn&#39;t care. I see you are a tile guy. Well, I have a state recognized plumbing license and that alone allows me to do side jobs. You of all people should know that when you work in the trades a good number of years, you build a reputation and get to know alot of people and thats where the side jobs come into play! Listen, I would be more concerned about the ****head down the street with a toolbox that calls himself a plumber when really he is just a handiman with no formal education or training. I went to school for five years to obtain my plumbing license. I by no means feel bad about doing side jobs because its work my employer probably would not have gotten anyway. My father was on the Fire department here for fourteen years before he started building houses full time. His days off from the department he built houses. Was he taking work away from the other builders? No! He was feeding his family. Side jobs have been in existense long before I was in the picture my friend. Have a great season sledding and THINK SNOW!

2000sxr700
10-23-2009, 10:49 PM
sorry John about the blurb! I thought it would have bleeped out!

dolph
10-24-2009, 11:16 AM
2000, well said my friend!

polarisrider1
10-24-2009, 12:25 PM
dolph, nice to here your wife has a job. Mine works for me, barely part time in the office. 2000 I am also a Licensed Residentual Builder in the state of Michigan. I will never stop doing tile to go after my customers &#40;builders&#41; work. Those &#34;side jobs&#34; would be stealing from the people that hire me. Same as the guys who work fro me would be considered stealing if they bid against me. I supply them with the tools, sometimes vehicles, insurance and a somewhat stable enviroment to work. They have no overhead such as showroom, warehouse, insurance, office staff. They get to work off my license. They get that on my ticket, so if they are bidding jobs in the same field of course they can be less. I explained to them that it does them no good to do this. They make the same either way and then they got to collect the money, deal with the customer and warrenty there work with the &#34;side job&#34;. Do they really want the head aches? once this side job thing starts they loose respect for your company and eventually go after your accounts. I have lost million dollar accounts this way. Just giving an Owners view here. The other side of the fence were the grass is not so green.

2000sxr700
10-24-2009, 02:00 PM
Polaris- I understand what ur sayin! really I do. I do watch who asks me to do their work and I do not take work from my employer with his customers! He at times, when things are good, has given me work to do on the side because our shop was to busy to do the work. I guess he would rather give it to us guy&#39;s rather than tell the customer to go to another shop. Bottom line is, chances are your guy&#39;s do side jobs without your knowledge. Chances are they are not takin work away from you either.

whitedust
10-24-2009, 04:48 PM
Everybody does side jobs &amp; if the boss gets pissed they say I&#39;ll never do that again...until next time. You have to exspect a guy to do side jobs usually too small to worry about &amp; good extra money for him. If you want guys to drop side jobs work them overtime 24-7 &amp; they won&#39;t have time for side jobs.

polarisrider1
10-25-2009, 01:30 AM
If you pay them well they won&#39;t need to work side jobs. They can spend time with their families. Right now any job in MI is a good job. 15% unemployment. If you want your grout stained another color or cleaned, we are on it. I am doing work that I laughed at 2 yrs. ago. Humbling to say the least. I hope everyone on JD the best!

arcticgeorge
10-25-2009, 12:36 PM
Ran out of work and laid off 2 1/2 months ago...Sucks and right before the holidays..lame. I guess its all how you look at it, i have friends that have been off since last fall......... All this talk about side jobs, its no big deal. The Union B.A. and President both have been through this in the early 80&#39;s and early 90&#39;s and they know you have to do any work you can to survive in the trades. Now if you are running a larger job and not committed to the Union as a contractor they may say they can let you go. I am pretty sure that the Union people spend little or NO time looking for side jobbers they have bigger concerns like having your card and being up to date with your dues. I&#39;am sure there has been an exception here and there.

fastercat
10-25-2009, 01:44 PM
well luck has it, a friend of mine knows a guy looking for some help, so i called him and start monday morning re-siding three townhomes, there pretty big i guess and he thinks he can keep me busy for at least 3 months, so after almost 2 years of little to no work i am back in the force, the good thing is my sled should get used more now than i thought as of last week, good luck to all that are out of work, it really sucks, but one thing for sure is i spent almost 2 years with my 6 and 8 year old kids instead of putting them in daycare, i&#39;ll cherish those moments for ever.

jakester
10-25-2009, 02:03 PM
We had major layoffs two weeks ago. 37 people out of three hundred. First time in 37 years. Ironically alot of the dead weight managers got to stay. I&#39;m hoping that this is it for a long time. People that were let go, got a pretty good package though. Then I read in the paper today about all the illegals in our county,and there is basically nothing local authorities can do unless the feds ask them to. I didn&#39;t know that illegals can be in any school and have the same rights has legals. Same with hospitals. I don&#39;t have the answers but it doesn&#39;t seem right. I&#39;m for a better life for everyone ,but can it be done legally? Anyway good luck to those out of jobs right now. God please bless America!!

jakester
10-25-2009, 02:05 PM
We had major layoffs two weeks ago. 37 people out of three hundred. First time in 37 years. Ironically alot of the dead wait managers got to stay. I&#39;m hoping that this is it for a long time. People that were let go, got a pretty good package though. Then I read in the paper today about all the illegals in our county,and there is basically nothing local authorities can do unless the feds ask them to. I didn&#39;t know that illegals can be in any school and have the same rights has legals. Same with hospitals. I don&#39;t have the answers but it doesn&#39;t seem right. I&#39;m for a better life for everyone ,but can it be done legally? Anyway good luck to those out of jobs right now. God please bless America!!