99% of the tinme rolling the sled works or just a pull but their are incidents that are few and far between that require digging no matter how experienced you are. I roll my sled out alot and use a bunje alot.
Out in cooke city. I didnt know that you had a way of signing onto johndee.com
oh ya Joe, took me a few days to link up the satilites, actually we had dial up at the hotel in the room next to the conference room for free. Just had to reset passwords. Dougs Iphone worked great, my droid not so great with the wifi they had working part time. That's why I did not mess with pictures on dial up.
you don't have me all worked up......and I not sure where you see your name 233times.......just point it out to ya lenny.....some guy asked about sky jack.....I state what my exsperience is with it......then i state my opinion on shovel and getting unstuck........then you go in to all this....seems on this site when you state "IMO" guys like you start with stuff like "Baby snow" and " I will learn ya"......
the reason i like coming here is to share my experiences and maybe help some newbies out!!!!is that not what a forum is about? maybe I will just take what i learned over the years and move on as guys like you seem to have it under control.......
you think sharing with newbies that they will not need a shovel is reasonable? You want to be responsible in your mind for newbies not being prepared. It's one thing for you to not need a shovel and you have earned that but would it not be better to be capable of digging out if you don't know how to prevent a major stuck? How many years did it take you to get to your level of riding? I can tell by your posts that you probably a very experienced rider and have less stucks than many. I think it is important that newbies understand that a shovel is necessary at least till they can become better skilled in not getting stuck. As we all know I am a sarcastic pri*k and contribute to the escalation of tension in posts. Lets just leave it to each having an opinion, looks like were both stuborn and getting no where. I don't have anything under control as you can see so your just as important as me or the next guy, stick around Pat. Our personalities and pride are probably more of the culprit than the actual need for a shovel, I know mine is!
A shovel isn't need but sometimes nice to have. I can't remember the last time I used it in the UP but I do carry it on deep snow days. Most of the time a tug on a ski or Sno Bungee works and you're on your way. That being said I would probably want it if I was riding alone. You can always mat the snow down with you feet but sometimes you need to get it out of the way. You can either do so and have wet gloves or use a shovel. It really is personal preference for the UP but a must for out west.
now that was good!, I'd a got necked and shoveled for 1/2 hr. I have a realy light weight toro 2 stroke single stage snow blower I strap to my backpack. I'd be down to the gras in 5 mins
Well back to post #1. I don't think I would of met many of you guys and gals or would of ever rode Togwotee, snowies,Cooke, IP, Yellowstone, most of Ontario or the Mass City power lines if it wasn't for off trail riding. Oh and along with my secret spots. I was hoping to see more pics posted of scenery.
Out in cooke city. I didnt know that you had a way of signing onto johndee.com
Hi Joe,
This really isn't Scott, I work with him. We were here at work talking and I looked at the Western Riding Forum and found you by accident.....No pun intended.
Just glad you are okay, sleds can be replaced!!!!!
Scott says hi ..... and contact him on FB, since he doesn't have a login for JD.com. But, he can still get on there, I'll show him.
Maybe we'll run into each other in DA UP. I've got two places in White Pine.
Well back to post #1. I don't think I would of met many of you guys and gals or would of ever rode Togwotee, snowies,Cooke, IP, Yellowstone, most of Ontario or the Mass City power lines if it wasn't for off trail riding. Oh and along with my secret spots. I was hoping to see more pics posted of scenery.
Well PR1, you got to have some more pics of you and the boys from out west, throw them up here so us deprived unworthy can gauk at your good fortunes!
Well PR1, you got to have some more pics of you and the boys from out west, throw them up here so us deprived unworthy can gauk at your good fortunes!
I forgot my camera for the last trip, but the other guys took tons of pics. I did take my phone out on the last day and got three pics. I will post another and maybe the others will come forward but I doubt it. Of the 26 guys or so that went out only two of us post here. Another 2 to 3 stop by rarely to see what I am yammering about. I have hundreds of off trail pics but would love to see others.
I grew up (my wife says I still haven't grown up) riding in michigan and moved "out west" 3 years ago. the mountain riding is fun and extreme. But i do miss the trail riding at times. Not many places you can squeeze the throttle and go for speed. Throttle is squeezed alot but usually when climbing and speed isn't there. Miss the warming stops, lake races, etc. Miss the flatland but wouldn't trade it for mountain riding. Shovel is an absolute must out here. If you are stuck you are going uphill and there's is no way to "pull a ski". 9 out of 10 times you are on your own. Hard to stop and help a buddy without getting stuck. Depending on grade of hill may not be safe to stop and help. Snow can be over your head too.
After getting stuck multiple times this past weekend, I have decided, while I didn't "need" a shovel to get out, I sure the heck wanted one! My upper body is much stronger than my lower body, legs, and stomping 2-3 foot snow down when one is 5'5" is tiring. LOL. I would have rathered shoveled that heavy wet snow out of my way.
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