did poo 800's ever get straightened out?

[snake]

thanks in advance! I know they had issues,but did poo 800 get better after say like 2009? would like to get an 800,but not if improvements were not made!

[polarisrider1]

thanks in advance! I know they had issues,but did poo 800 get better after say like 2009? would like to get an 800,but not if improvements were not made!

They sure did! No issues on elevens or twelves. Break it in per manufacturers specs and I run mine at 8300 rpm peak on and off. Holding together fine. Haven't heard of any problems from any other Poo owners with the newer two injector motors.

[kraven700]

thanks in advance! I know they had issues,but did poo 800 get better after say like 2009? would like to get an 800,but not if improvements were not made!

Although the 2011, 2012 800's are better due to longer cylinder skirts (for increased piston support) and improved fuel mapping, INDY Dan still predicts piston future failures for the newer 800's due to a short connecting rod issue.

heck out his thread and solution that he offers on SnoWest:
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/s...d.php?t=304283

[700classic]

Awful pricey solution!

[ezra]

call some rental operations out west ask them about it.they will give you the low down on fleet averages.

[polarisrider1]

call some rental operations out west ask them about it.they will give you the low down on fleet averages.

Great idea. I asked at Cooke City this year and they said no issues

[snobinge]

The rental fleets that had 2011 RMK 8's will not tell you "no issues". At least a popular one in WY. It seems as if the 12's may be doing better than the 11's, but with the low snow early this season the true story will be late season as more miles are put on. I hope they work out because everything I hear is the chasis is great!

[mspease]

Slightly off topic, sorry, but I'm curious what is the most common rental sled out West?

[polarisrider1]

Slightly off topic, sorry, but I'm curious what is the most common rental sled out West?

depends on the area. Mix of everything. I suspect Poo then Doo.

[kraven700]

thanks in advance! I know they had issues,but did poo 800 get better after say like 2009? would like to get an 800,but not if improvements were not made!

Click on the link below that has actual pics posted of a 2011 800 grenaded;

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/s...d.php?t=302221

[mspease]

What's your point? If one goes bad that means they all are? You could say that about any motor out there. Heck, Ski Doo is replacing many of the 800 eTech pistons from 2011 once you reach a certain mileage, does that mean they are all bad? I don't think so. I would be more interested in how the 2012's are performing, which I haven't heard many issues about, which I know I would. It seems Polaris is held to a higher standard and you hear so much more when they have an issue? If Polaris was replacing pistons on many of their 800's as Ski Doo is, you would never hear the end of it? I've heard very little talk about that problem with Ski Doo. Double standard? You decide.

By the way, didn't see any pic's on your link, did I miss something? Maybe you have to be an authorized Snowest member?

[salmonbum]

I have heard of quite a few 11 and 12 Poo 800's going down out west.

[polarisrider1]

I have heard of quite a few 11 and 12 Poo 800's going down out west.

I am out west and West Yelowstone Polaris says different. Revkev has a 2011and mine is a 12. We each have 1300 miles on ours running around 8000 RPM for the most part. No issues. Mtn. Mayhem and IP Rental fleet says no issues. Give me sources so your hearsay is valid. Any one in hear having legit issues on 11or12 800 poo motor?

[kraven700]

What's your point? If one goes bad that means they all are? You could say that about any motor out there. Heck, Ski Doo is replacing many of the 800 eTech pistons from 2011 once you reach a certain mileage, does that mean they are all bad? I don't think so. I would be more interested in how the 2012's are performing, which I haven't heard many issues about, which I know I would. It seems Polaris is held to a higher standard and you hear so much more when they have an issue? If Polaris was replacing pistons on many of their 800's as Ski Doo is, you would never hear the end of it? I've heard very little talk about that problem with Ski Doo. Double standard? You decide.

By the way, didn't see any pic's on your link, did I miss something? Maybe you have to be an authorized Snowest member?

Yes you do have to be a paid member to view the pics.

Wasn't sayin' or comparing the POLARIS 800 to the Ski-Doo as that was not the O/P's question.

If you view the POLARIS Pro-Ride section, there are more than just a couple 2011-2012 800 owners with piston issues. The Western riders seem to have more miles on than most, perhaps that explains some of it.

INDY Dan runs a reputable company, very well respected, sees more 800's torn down than most anyone else, and he offers that facts and an explanation that makes sense, so it appears the problem still exists, although to a lesser degree than prior years

For the record, I've purchased 14+ BRAND NEW Polaris sleds/RZR's/Jet Ski's over the years.

Currently own (2) POLARIS sleds, (1) RZR, (1) SEA-DOO jet-ski

IF I Snowcheck a 2013, I'd get the E-X-T-E-N-D-E-D warranty, that's for sure.

Just forwarding the facts to answer the O/P's question, that's all

[raceinsnow]

I have almost 2000 miles on my 12 switch 800 and I have had NO problems with my sled,no stumble,no hiccups.I was concerned about this motor also but its running great and uses less oil then my buddy's new e-tek800.

[polarisrider1]

I have almost 2000 miles on my 12 switch 800 and I have had NO problems with my sled,no stumble,no hiccups.I was concerned about this motor also but its running great and uses less oil then my buddy's new e-tek800.

I was pretty concerned about how little oil my Poo is using. Easily half of what other poos I've owned.

[salmonbum]

Yes, polarisrider1, you are out west and ride WFO at 8000 rpm for 23 miles straight up to 11,000 ft. I know, I know. You are the durability tester for Poo. I have seen your pics, you look pretty hardcore.

I will say it again, "I have heard of quite a few 11 and 12 Poo 800's going down out west". The reason for my statement, because its true. I have no reason to make this stuff up. Many of my riding buddies have poos or their close riding buddy’s doo. What do you want from me, their phone numbers? You can call steamboat power sports and ask them. If they tell you the truth, I’m not sure. Since they are a dealer and want to sell sleds, they may not be forthcoming on the motors reliability issues, same as a Doo dealer tells you they don’t blow belts (LIE).

Did you know that back before the new RMK chassis came out that Poo completely re staffed their motor department with guys from their “other” motor division, because they we sick of having the 4 injector 800 blow up and wanted to try to fix it?

Bottom line is the RMK is a great chassis, the motor is not. Its low on power and lacks reliability when really put to the wood. The 12’s are better, but they still go down. If I honestly believed that the motor was holding together, I would have one in my garage. The chassis, in the mountains is better than my XP. With that, Cat motors for this season have been going down as well, doo had a piston recall on the 2011 800 ETec’s that were at elevation….. they all suck.

[polarisrider1]

Currently have one of those who lost their job at Poo riding with us. His father was at Poo thirty years and got axed in the motor division. Not their faults, engineering made huge mistakes. They ride 08 800's. One broke a steering post yesterday. Any ways hurt feelings pumps a lot of negativity. I will do some more torture testing since if I can melt it down I have all summer to put it back together.

[polarisrider1]

Salmonbum, no need to get so defensive with me. I am just reporting what I am finding out first hand. I will post Poo Issues immediately. I also owned skidoo and will not be biased towards Poo. It would be nice to hear from Skylar on what he thinks about his sled. We also have an M8 guy who rented a Poo on this trip and said he will ride it the balance of the week and give us his review.

[snobinge]

I was out at Tog the first week of Feb. Our guide, who by the way sang praises about the RMK, gave us the facts about their 2011 fleet. The motors were less than reliable to say the least. At that time the 2012 fleet did not have enough time/miles to make any assumptions on the 2012 reliability. I can say it sounded like the 2012's were holding up well at that point. I will tell you that one guy in our group rented an M8 for half the trip and an RMK 800 for the other half. He much preferred the RMK! We also had the previous M chasis, Revs, and XP's in our group. The RMK's were the winners up drag race hill. I say this with my tail between my legs because I am a Doo guy, but it is the facts. Just like the 2011 RMK 800's had a lot of burn downs at Tog. All brands have issues...trust me I am on an 07 REV 800R! I just wanted to offer relevant information from a reliable source on the question the OP posted.

[ezra]

a few guys selling a fix for the non issues
http://www.2strokeheads.com/Polaris800DropIn.htm
http://www.pmspolaris.com/thefix.htm

[Trees4Traction440]

2011 Poo had a few Injector issues that caused failure im told...on Hardcore sledder guys with the '12 rave about power and reliability. from '11 to '12 they changed injectors and also some different porting. Upping the HP a bit. Polaris didnt say anything about that hoping all the issues were solved. I have a '12 800 and love it..everyones that has rode it gets off with a smile. Power is great and oil consumption is even better. I wouldnt be afraid of a '11 or a '12 at all. BTW mines for sale if anyones looking for a 800 144x2

[thebreeze]

They seem better, but IMO the issue has not been fully remedied. One of my good friends dropped a cylinder/piston skirt on '11 pro RMK. Punched a hole in the case, and destroyed the motor. There are others I have seen on snowest with VERY similar issues.

However, the motor runs well when running, and the chassis is incredible. It would be my choice of sled as long as I had warranty, but I am an expert at voiding those...lol

[grub]

Rode with 2012 Pro R 800. Not the same sled as an RMK or Assault but same motor. As far as power is concerned I would say that Pol has caught up to a point. They are still not heads and shoulders over anybody on power. As far as blowing up nobody from around here got enough miles on to really address that issue. Pol has spent a lot of time on the 800's. It wasn't that many years ago when they didn't even sell that many 8's. But now the industry has changed. Everyone is selling more 800s so Pol has to step up. It appears they are trying.

[ezra]

I would buy one but only with a 5yr ext warranty and would sell in 4 no matter what.
quit a few guys on snow west still busting skirts off the jugs around that 1500 to 2k mark.spendy dice to roll if your jugs are next.
if I owned one I would with out question be putting in some of the longer skirt/lighter pistons offerd buy a few of the aftermaket corp out there.
I would look real close at my jug skirts when appart for hair line cracks.
but then my history with poo is one of any thing that can bust will but only on my poo.my bud can buy same sled same day and run for yrs after my poo has been traded in cuz of any thing that can bust did