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    Do you guys think that a used sled with studs is worth more or less.I think they are worth less. I have seen so many pull thrus heat exchanger problems,very hard on trailer garage floor.

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    I think studs decrease the value. I would not buy a sled with a studded track. Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by edmarino View Post
    I think studs decrease the value. I would not buy a sled with a studded track. Ever
    I would agree with this, but you know there are those who swear by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcr440 View Post
    I would agree with this, but you know there are those who swear by them.
    I'm one of them. Sure is nice to be able to stop..........especialy this last season with minimal snow and lots of ice.

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    I have a studded track also - been stuck at a couple of hilly & icy road crossings without them - plus the stopping benefits. I think it is a personal preference as to whether they add to the value of a sled. If you prefer riding with studs, then having them can add to the value of a used sled since you would have to spend the extra $$ to add the studs. To those who don't like studs for the reasons above, then you may think having them reduces the value.

    Keep in mind that if a studded sled is for sale by a private party, the seller probably thinks that the studs add to the value since they spent the $$ to put in the studs.

    I'd shop for a used sled that matches your preference - studs or not - so you can be happy with your purchase and not have to spend additional money to either add studs or replace a studded track with a non-studded one.

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    I try not to buy sleds with studs, but if the deal is really that great I will. I think it decreases the value, they're worthless IMO big lug tracks are much better...

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    I never ever ride without studs. Don't need a bunch just min down the center of track. Iceripper is best but not worth changing tracks so stay with my studs. 9000 miles & my track with studs look new but I don't ride in marginal conditions. If studs look like crap on used sleds that is a negative & will be problems so plan on a new track.

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    Do they make studs for a 2 1/4 track?
    I do know when I took the time in the past to buy and part out sleds a 121 with good studs was worth a good $75 more and at swaps sold first.
    a speed track with good picks will always bring in a extra 150.
    I would chuckel at some guys looking over tracks and not buy one because of a missing or busted lug only to pick one with perfect lugs and blued worn clips.

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    I always look for sleds with studs.

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    First consideration would be miles. I don't trust a track if it is more than five seasons old or if it has over 5 thousand miles on it. They are better than they used to be but with time and miles they can go flying out the back at any time when they get older. If you like studs a used sled with decent studs is a good thing. If you don't like studs a used sled with studs is a bad thing. Personal preference. I don't even like to ride with guys with unstudded sleds. You never know when one of them will rear end you when they can't stop. Have seen it before.

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    I agree that studs decrease the value in a snowmobile or snowmobile track, because I just had my heat exchanger welded becasue of a pick that got loose and shot through. also if you ever looked up in the tunnel of a studded track snowmobile you can see picks that dig into the tunnel on most of the snowmobiles i have seen.

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    The acceleration out of the corners. Priceless. Wouldn,t have a sled without them. Just my 2cents.

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    studs are worthless if riding snow worth riding in

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    Quote Originally Posted by mustardbucket2 View Post
    I have a studded track also - been stuck at a couple of hilly & icy road crossings without them - plus the stopping benefits. I think it is a personal preference as to whether they add to the value of a sled. If you prefer riding with studs, then having them can add to the value of a used sled since you would have to spend the extra $$ to add the studs. To those who don't like studs for the reasons above, then you may think having them reduces the value.

    Keep in mind that if a studded sled is for sale by a private party, the seller probably thinks that the studs add to the value since they spent the $$ to put in the studs.
    X2

    I personally think studs are worthless. They push in the corners, add a LOT of rotating mass, mess up garage floor, cost way too much, etc.

    I removed the studded track I had on my IQ and it rides soooo much better.

    Guys that ride on ice like them. I probably would too if I rode on ice. Even on icy trails you just have to know your machine without studs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grub View Post
    I don't even like to ride with guys with unstudded sleds. You never know when one of them will rear end you when they can't stop. Have seen it before.
    That's because they're riding too close like idiots. Plain and simple. Studs or not. Studs are worthless in a base of snow...snow not ice.

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    I use them and probably always will. I don't think it adds or subtracts any value to a sled, just like floormats don't add or subtract any value from the pickup you buy. I'll say this I am a trail rider and do not ride off trail much anymore, used to go out west plenty but mostly trails for me now. Anyways bought a sled for my gf last year that was not studded, one trip to grand marais and knew she needed them. it was a march ride (2011) so trails had started to get icy and she wasn't as comfortable on it due to the track spinning up hills and getting loose in corners. She's much happier this year with studs. Even when the base is snow alot of corners get iced up and that's where I find they work best in slowing down for icy corners. Alot of times you don't need them but when you do they are nice to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezra View Post
    studs are worthless if riding snow worth riding in
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    Trail sleds all get studded before they are ridden, back country sled = no studs. I'm with ezra there, hard to stud 2 1/4 track.
    I have 6000 miles on my nytro and I studded it the day I brought it home from dealer, the track is still in great shape and studs still in decent shape for the miles. I'm putting on new track, studs and no slip drivers next season due to the miles on the track(I agree with grub, after 5-6000 miles it's time) and then go for another 6000 miles!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezra View Post
    studs are worthless if riding snow worth riding in
    I don't know if I'd say "worthless", though I'd agree the benefits are minimal at best. But, how often do most of us get to ride in optimum conditions? Personally, out of several thousand miles the past two or three seasons, I can't think of one time.

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    The thread was originally about whether studs add or subtract from the value of a used sled...will a track hold up if it had studs and the studs are removed...or do the holes weaken the track if the studs aren't in them anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    The thread was originally about whether studs add or subtract from the value of a used sled...will a track hold up if it had studs and the studs are removed...or do the holes weaken the track if the studs aren't in them anymore?
    I think it depends on the buyer, if they run studs on thier sleds it will help, if not it will probly hurt the value. If they are installed correctly I don't think it will matter if they are removed.IMO
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    If I were looking to buy a used sled.....whether it had studs or didn't have them wouldn't matter much. If it didn't have them and I wanted them, I'd put 'em in. If it had them and I didn't want them, I'd take 'em out (I concur with the others who state that taking them out won't hurt the track -- some guys port their tracks with much larger holes with no ill effects). BUT.....I could see where some buyers might think that somebody running studs is a "Ricky Racer" type and may have ridden the sled hard, thereby making said buyer shy away from it.

    Just a theory.

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