Gas prices

[pistons]

Now that crude oil is well below 100.00, why isn't gasoline at 2.50? Pees me off.

[polarisrider1]

Now that crude oil is well below 100.00, why isn't gasoline at 2.50? Pees me off.

It's called because we can.

[cuzzinolaf]

I wouldn't say well below $100 when it is only a few bucks.

[anonomoose]

hey, stop pickin on the poor oil companies! Accord'n to the ads, they provide a bunch of jobs, and are in everyone's retirement portfolio....and well, they can't hep makin all dat money....dah devil made dem do it!

Just for fun, I drove a Nissan Leaf today....my sort of own protest of the juicing we have been taking all spring and for the last 4 years or so. Nice little car, certainly drove well, a bit wierd to not have a motor running but I got used to it, and it didn't burn a drop of oil. Gage says 5 hrs to charge it back up to full.... using 110....

Now if I could only get one in a snowmobile....I already own a very long heavy extension cord. I can see it now....."park here if you want to charge your sled....go way over there if you have a two smoker! down wind please :0

[ezra]

so just how much of that dirty coal that your people want to bankrupt was burnt to give you that little joy ride?

[Cat600]

go way over there if you have a two smoker! down wind please :0

I'll be parking over there then, breathing in that beautiful 2 stroke smell lol

[Administrator]

Now that crude oil is well below 100.00, why isn't gasoline at 2.50? Pees me off.

Because for gas to be at $2.50 a gallon, crude would have to be in the $50-$60 a barrel price. Plus, crude inventory is growing and is currently at it's highest level in nearly 20 years. Gas inventory is seeing it's seasonal draw down and is below 5 year AVERAGES.

The formula for cheap gas is not as simple as lower crude prices. Especially in the big usage (big driving) season.

-John

[dcsnomo]

so just how much of that dirty coal that your people want to bankrupt was burnt to give you that little joy ride?

Oh c'mon ezra! Everyone knows electricity doesn't come from coal, it comes from the wall outlet!

[dcsnomo]

Now that crude oil is well below 100.00, why isn't gasoline at 2.50? Pees me off.

If I am a producer why do I want to drive my retail price down to $2.50 when you are already desensitized to $3.85?

Margin, baby, margin!

[whitedust]

$3.68 a gallon to $4.00 WI to FL.

[samc]

oh c'mon ezra! Everyone knows electricity doesn't come from coal, it comes from the wall outlet!

lol!

[snocrazy]

Just bought a VW Jetta TDI - Over 45 MPG on the highway! Electic and hybrids are a joke.

[snoluver1]

so just how much of that dirty coal that your people want to bankrupt was burnt to give you that little joy ride?

Exactly!
Pretty comical, all the Lemmings that choose to believe electricity is any kind of answer to our "carbon footprint".

[snoluver1]

Just bought a VW Jetta TDI - Over 45 MPG on the highway! Electic and hybrids are a joke.

Run some two stroke in that baby. You'll pick up another mile or two per gallon and your injectors will last longer and run quiet!
Now, just imagine the mileage you could have if the oil companies weren't stripping energy out of the fuel, and replacing it with bio-mass fillers that don't burn worth a crap!

[landoman]

Why exactly are Electric and Hybrids a joke?

Just bought a VW Jetta TDI - Over 45 MPG on the highway! Electic and hybrids are a joke.

[snoluver1]

Why exactly are Electric and Hybrids a joke?

Because if every car in America had to plug in to operate, how much extra electricity do you suppose we would have to produce? Electricity is as far away from "clean" as you can get!! This not to mention the up front extra cost and the added toxic waste that would be produced by millions of batteries!

[snoluver1]

Hybrid technology does make a bit more sense than full on electric, however. As long as you do most of your charging with the vehicle itself anyway!

[dcsnomo]

Because if every car in America had to plug in to operate, how much extra electricity do you suppose we would have to produce? Electricity is as far away from "clean" as you can get!! This not to mention the up front extra cost and the added toxic waste that would be produced by millions of batteries!

But that doesn't negate hybrids...

[snoluver1]

But that doesn't negate hybrids...

No it doesn't. They just make slightly more sense because they can also charge their own batteries to a point.

[Skylar]

Well me and the boys from work, there are a total of 5 of us from the old shop, now working at the new shop, just went out and bought ourselves a used minivan for our commute to work. $20 bucks each, per week, gets us to work now. 500 miles a week. So now the high gas prices don't bother me AS MUCH. LOL.

[frnash]

You may also find that you have to add a separate electrical circuit for the charger connection, and perhaps a separate meter from your electrical utility if you want their "really low rate" for off-peak electric auto battery charging! It will surely eat an entire 15 amp circuit all by itself, if not more. That will cost you a few nickels!

[ezra]

Why exactly are Electric and Hybrids a joke?

well lets count the ways
for one back in the 80s I had a Plymouth champ twin stick I got 40mpg average if road tripping could get 48 all day.
ever pick up a car battery? yeah real light what 70lbs? OK lets say you have just 8 of them 480lbs then add a drive system what minn 200lbs.
so what kind of mileage do you think that prius would get if it was not haling around a Yamaha nytro every day?
prob close to 45 I would say.
they are built and marketed to the lemming fools who want to show the world how green they are.then they drive there overpriced image to there 4000 sf house with the heated garage the house running 2 central A/C units 2 furnaces the Minni fridge in the rec room the deep freze in the basement the 36 in fridge in the kitchen and the garage fridge.don't forget how the "GREEN folks like there wine so don't forget the wine celler.
it is a douche-bag car for douche-bag people.
the better ? why are nattral gas autos only marketed and sold in 2 states in this country.toyota nissan and honda all sel a NG car with home fueling stations and can switch to unleded with a flick of the switch.
next ? why is the EPA charging 800 grand for licences per auto model you work on to do natral gas conversions ?

[Cat600]

Why exactly are Electric and Hybrids a joke?

They actually had this on CNN or somewhere:

Cost of car at purchase (~$10,000 more than normal car)
Cost to eventually replace batteries (~$5,000 to $10,000, plus labor $$$)
Other repair costs
Cost of plugging in for 10 some hours to recharge (plus the added coal/nuclear pollution from that)
Loss of wages/income from you sitting around waiting for car to get charged so you can drive.
Other vehicle costs.

So all those factors of electric, they proved that it is cheaper to drive a gas-only vehicle at higher gas prices that to go electric.
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Also to add to the thread, I heard on the news that Delta or some airline was looking to buy an oil refinery so that they could get their own gas for way cheaper, and they were wondering if that would lead to cheaper airline costs. I actually laughed at that, the airlines would never cheapen their airfares even if they did save a lot on gas purchases, because as deep as they are in debt. Plus it would not be fair to other airlines that could not make the same refinery purchase.

Gas prices are probably never going to be drastically reduced ever again, at least not until another depression or we finally get another sustainable and economical replacement for petroleum.

[Administrator]

well lets count the ways

they are built and marketed to the lemming fools who want to show the world how green they are.then they drive there overpriced image to there 4000 sf house with the heated garage the house running 2 central A/C units 2 furnaces the Minni fridge in the rec room the deep freze in the basement the 36 in fridge in the kitchen and the garage fridge.don't forget hot the "GREEN folks like there wine so don't forget the wine celler.

Actually Ezra, you forgot about their 2nd and 3rd homes all of equal size running equal utilities and only occupied 3 percent of the time! And just to clarify, I am not against a 2nd or a 3rd home (wish I had a few of my own!), just don't like folks that do preaching to the rest of us about carbon footprints.

-John

[snoluver1]

why is the EPA charging 800 grand for licences per auto model you work on to o natral gas conversions ?

Because the EPA is the biggest joke of all!!